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Update: The story aired Tuesday night and Wednesday morning on News 3. NEW! Click here to read the story. Give your comments below! Original Blog: We're preparing a story on climate change that will air next week on News 3. While working on the story, I've been randomly asking people what has turned out to be a complex question: Do you think the climate is changing? If so, how? |
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Posted by: Frank Sims Location: B/CS
People need to realize that while pollutants are emitted into the air by humans this is really a very small fraction in percent as compared to just one volcano eruption in any area in the world. I am studying this in school, and really looking at ANY graph everyone needs to understand resolution. When one looks at a graph were the side on the left looks low and then an increase to the right as exponential growth is a resolution problem because most of those graphs are plotting into the future. If you look at the peak on the CO2 levels in the Jurassic and pretend that we live in that time period then lets say we are almost at the maximum but not quite then the PROJECTION or PREDICTION COULD look like a exponential increase because of the previous years before the specific time we are looking at in particular. Remember this whole idea of change is true and its Cyclic, but what about those sun spots? I am surprised that not many people have seen the correlation between climate and earth. Posted by: john Location: LA there are many very competent scientists on both sides of this who whole heartedly believe their positon, but the evidence for climate change is at best anecdotal. there is nothing like a "consensus". i see posts saying it's getting hotter, but there is evidence the globe is actually getting cooler. glaciers have calved off since before man roamed the earth. giant insects are not going to appear and obliterate us tomorrow. excess carbon dioxide creates healthier plant life that absorbs it and produces oxygen. everyone should take a breath and remember it's always best to question why the guy making a killing selling sandbags (i.e., al gore) is the one shouting to ignore the sunshine because the flood rains are coming. Posted by: Sharon Location: College Station While it's true that climate change is cyclical, it is also true that you can't keep pumping pollutants into the atmosphere and not expect there to be some consequences. In addition, when there were warm periods in the distant past, we didn't have billions of people living on coastlines. The oceans have covered parts of Texas in the past, you can find marine fossils in Nacogdoches and the Brazos and Little Brazos Rivers at Hwy 21, but there were no people here then. Let's face it, it's a concern now that people are occupying these areas. If some small steps we each take can postpone this a bit, that's better. But it won't be enough and even bigger steps may be too late. We're not talking the end of mankind here, just some uncomfortable and possibly drastic changes. But surely not in our lifetime. HA! Posted by: sharon Location: kurten, texas yes I think its changing and it is called global warming- its a dominoe affect from all the coal mines we have in texas. they are to blame for rapid climate change in weather. they will have to answer for their actions on judgement day.tere is no escaping that. god is in control. Posted by: Independent Location: Burleson County I thank God that I'm back home in central Texas after living in Florida, 15 miles from the Atlantic. The weather is MUCH more frightening there. Yes, it's hot and dry, more so than when I was a little sprout, but I don't think it's because of global warming. The climate historically has natural cycles. Live with it. Posted by: Carl Location: Grimes County Of course the climate is changing! Climate is cyclical in accordance with what is happening with the sun. i.e. Ice Age, glaciers. rain forests. Come on. what ever happened to common sense? Posted by: Jay Location: Leon County Guess people in this area forget about "The Dust Bowl" days, it isn't the first time nor the last things like that will happen. This planet is way overdue for a Ice Age. And historically before a Ice Age comes a period of Global Warming. Its a cycle that is on going Posted by: Dick Location: Caldwell If the CLIMATE is changing then you MUST get the worst people to change or all of these changes that are government wants to change, CHINA is the largest produce of coal emissions because they are the largest user of coal power-plants in the world. There automotive production and use is approaching in the top group in the world, with out any pollution equipment at all. Brazil just burns off more rain Forrest just to get more farm land and then abandons what they have already burned off because it will not support crops. Rain Forrest = natural ways of coping with pollution. Ethanol cost more to produce than it saves and adds to emissions than it saves. so says TIME magazine. Feel free to check these statements out. If all this is true them why is our government not going after those countries that are as much or larger part of the trouble. Check out the use of rapeseed oil ass a fuel as ethanol. If you people feel that it is true, check out the facts. Americas part of this is small Posted by: AlGoresbuggy Location: CS I'm still trying to figure out how the cavemen got the glaciers that created the great lakes to melt. Talk about global warming! Posted by: Anonymous Location: Caldwell This has nothing to do with the climate change, but I was wondering why all of the people on this site who are ranting about the MSM were even on this site because I believe that KBTX, a CBS affilliate, would be considered MSM!! Posted by: C/S Location: Bryan Wow... now I know why Hussein got elected... I thought people in TX had a few extra braincells; guess not. In responce to glaciers melting, as the poles expand, the ice eventually reaches warmer water and breaks off. This has happend sense the dawn of time. If the ice near the poles never melted, it would build up to such a degree that the planted would wobble off it's axis. Do you really believe that lining the pockets of bureaucrats via higher energy taxes will lower the temp outside ??? Posted by: lil' ole me Location: N'gee I REALLY like John in CS's theory on why the weather is hot this year. I can't make China and India quit emmiting CO2 anymore than I can make my neighbors hang their clothes on the line instead of using an electric dryer inside their homes that warms up the air around it so they have to turn their thermostat down! Besides, with prices what they are, sooner or later people will curb themselves, just because they can't afford it. SO, I think I'll just toodle along, trying to save money and not pollute MY world anymore than is necessary. And I KNEW someone would bring up creation science, Dude, you watch way too much science channel! I don't like it when people act like the Bible is stupid! I'm not asking you to believe, but if you don't I'm not going to imply you're stupid! Think it, yes, but say it, no. Posted by: Mason Nevill Location: Trinity, TX Climate is definitely getting warmer. As a kid, I used to skate on the tanks(ponds) near Iola. I think it is a normal natural occurrence. It'll change back. Posted by: Perry Good link Aaron. Problem is, too many people won't let facts get in the way of their opinion. I've noticed that foreign media is less biased than our MSM. Posted by: Thaddeus This question has already been answered yes too many times to warrant another opinion. Posing the same question again redundantly lowers the impact of the definitive answer. A better question is this. Since the climate is changing, what and how are we going to fix, cope, and/or survive? Posted by: James Location: Bryan Yes the weather is changing. It's been proven so. The ones that say it not has been listening too much to Russ and his hate radio. Posted by: KRL Location: normangee I think the climate changes in cycles this year very hot and dry and the next summer milder. As for my husband and I we will be retiring to Nebraska. And leave the heat to you all KRL Posted by: christina Location: somerville yes i think the climate is changing it was been so hot and dry the last few years and the winters arent as cold as the used to be back it the 80s Posted by: Anonymous If global warming is false, then why are the glaciers melting? Posted by: Common Sense Texas is hot and dry. It has been hot and dry sense we rode in covered wagons. Don't like it, move north of the Mason - Dixon Line where cry babies are better accepted. Posted by: Aaron Location: College Station Here is an interesting link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5907383/Global-cooling-hits-Al-Gores-home.html Posted by: shawn soto Location: navasota the climate is changing dramaticly Posted by: Anonymous Yeah, but dressing for hot weather isn't going to help much when our crops are withering because of the droughts global warming brings Posted by: Chuck Location: Amarillo Back when I was 5 or 6 the snow would come up to my chest... Well, that's because I was only 3'6". Yes the climate is changing. I don't want to sound stoic and all that but there is nothing to do about the weather but talk about it - Who Cares!?!. There are seasonal patterns and there are long period patterns we are just coming to recognize and can not predict the consequences of. Here's my advice: When it's cold dress warm. When it's raining, wear a raincoat. When it's hot, wear a hat. Once you're dressed for the day go to work or the park or wherever and don't concern yourself with the weather, leave that to your local meteorologist. And by the way, Tyler in College (?) Station, use some uppercase characters when appropriate will you? Calling people stupid doesn't make you right but does reveal you probably don't know much yourself. Posted by: Alex Location: Bryan Josh: The ice age predictions made in the 1970s were never subjected to the peer review process. At the same time, a majority of scientific publications were in fact projecting global warming. Sorry to disappoint, but this was going on long before Al Gore. 1970s ice age predictions were predominately media based, and 42 peer reviewed publications at that time predicted global warming. NOAA, Goddard, the American Geophysical Union, the American Institute of Physics, the Natl. Center for Atmospheric Research, the American Meteorological Society all were projecting global warming back in the 1970s. Once again, the scientific consensus has been, for some time (and indeed there are publications going back to 1956 in this regard) that human activity affects climate change. Radio talk show hosts, conspiracy theorists, and dunces like Senator Inhofe have carried the banner for skepticism. Pretty simple choice really. Posted by: Anonymous There is a bit of a difference in cases. The ice age thing was saying there could possibly be an ice age sometime in the next 1000 years or so. Now, its that we have evidence we are experiencing climate change and MUST do something. This isn't some liberal bologna. This is straight up scientific facts. Posted by: Josh Location: Madisonville Hey Alex in Bryan. I guess back in the '80's when liberals were all screaming "The sky is falling! Oh NO! We are all going to die! The world is about to experience another ICE AGE! There is almost nothing we can do to stop it! Everyone prepare!", that you were buying that crap too. Come on. You mean to tell me that you can see through all of the smoke and mirrors and see this stuff for what it really is? If you can't you truly are blind. Posted by: Tyler Location: CS Huebner went on to say: “It seems like we’re seeing higher temperatures real early in the summer. And since the higher temperatures usually correspond to a lack of rain, that has meant the droughts have gotten worse and last a little longer" - exactly what i said, that is what global warming does people. crops have certain growing seasons(the days b/w last freeze of spring/winter to first freeze in fall) and global warming makes it easier to disrupt the normal weather patterns which throws the growing season off. for instance, if u get a freeze unusually late in spring, ur crops might not be ready for harvest b4 the 1st freeze in the fall or if ur crops can only withstand certain temps and u have an unusually hot summer with little rain then that means ur probably gonna lose ur crops for that year. this is a potential consequence of global warming. on a diff note, if this is only a dumb liberal and democrat issue then why does mccain believe it's real? isn't he a republican? Posted by: Tyler Location: CS yes, the earth is in a natural warming period but it's warming at a faster rate than ever before. yes, most of it is natural;however, some of it is man-made. when you burn fossil fuels, you release greenhouse gases like CO2. CO2 acts as a blanket and helps keep earth warm enough to sustain life; however, the CO2 levels keep increasing. now we are creating a thicker blanket which allows less longwave radiation from earth to escape into space which causes earth's temp to further increase. deforestation is also a big problem. we're destroying millions of acres of rainforest annually so now we have more CO2 and less plantlife to absorb it. it's these two processes acting together which causes a problem. to those that say CO2 composes to small a part of our atmosphere to have an effect - really, it kind of seems like it actually does play an important role. and to those who say humans are not affecting the climate - then why are cities generally warmer than the areas surrounding them? Posted by: Tyler Location: CS the weather fluctuates year to year. climate is the study of weather over time not just one year. so you can have one colder than others. that doesn't mean global warming is happening. According to the US National Climatic Data Center (NCDC), the average temperature of the global land surface in January 2008 was below the 20th century mean (-0.02°F/-0.01°C) for the first time since 1982. now skeptics look at that and say "see global warming is not happening" but hello that's one year. what about the other 25 years where the annual temps were average and above average? so what exactly is your(skeptics) argument? what you have to understand is global warming doesn't just mean the earth is warming. global warming causes weather extremes to have the potential to happen much more frequently and be much worse than they would otherwise. so in other words, the cold can get colder, hot get hotter, droughts gets worse, floods get worse, etc. Posted by: Tyler Location: College Station really are u people this stupid? climate change is a myth made up to generate money? really? yall must be the ones who believe george w. bush is god. if u pay attention what is bush and cheney's main line of business? energy, oil and gas maybe? Haliburton anyone? why do u think that they said global warming was a joke and a lie? maybe because they didn't want people to believe it so they can keep making millions and millions. oh and who are u gonna believe, our scientists or joe barton(the guy that said as long as I'm chairman I will not listen to anything about global warming)? he said that in 2001. that is almost 10 years ago. do you know how much more new information and facts we have now than in 2001? you really believe a guy that refuses to look at the facts to make a choice and instead chooses to believe one thing and stay that way forever? if that's the case, then I believe the earth is still flat and slavery should be legal. again, are yall really this stupid? Posted by: Steve Location: Bryan Energy in minus energy out is net energy gain. Simpler terms : sun shines in , some is reflected. The heat from combustion and man made materials plus the absorbed sunlight is the difference. Is it really that hard for people to believe? Obviously the predictions vary and I don't believe most of them. But when its 2F hotter in Dallas than all around it in the country there is no logical denial of man made climate change. The people that don't believe in mans affect on climate change are probably the same people that think it gets hot in thier room when they close the door because the thermostat is messed up. Posted by: I love glaciers Location: CS Yes, of course the climate is changing of the great lakes would still be a big glacier. Posted by: Anonymous One of the best analogies for this whole things is this. Say that you go to 100 doctors, and 99 tell you that if you keep smoking, you will die of lung cancer. However, one says you will be fine if you continue smoking. Listening to the fringe "scientists" who claim anthropogenic climate change is bogus is like listening to that one doctor. I find it frustrating that people still believe that the issue of global warming is like a political issue, with two separate sides, both of which could be right. It doesn't matter if you are Republican, Democrat, liberal, conservative, whatever. It is agreed that global warming does exist and measures must be taken to mitigate its effects on humanity. Posted by: Paul Location: CS Never trust a politician, especially when named Gore/Clinton/Bush/Cheney/Obama. Cap and trade is a scam. Posted by: C. L. Location: Franklin Yes, I think the weather is changing, BUT not due to "Global Warming". In more than 60 years I've seen several droughts, cool summers, hot summers, mild winters, etc. The weather, glaciers, polar caps, etc. has been changes for tens of thousands years. We should minimize pollution but not because of the weather or "Global Warming". Posted by: USAStandUp Location: College Station http://alturl.com/2oaq - UN IPCC Lead Scientist doubts model accuracy http://alturl.com/uabm - Model Bad! In addition, top forecasting experts say the models violate the basic principles of forecasting. See: Ivy League forecasting pioneer Dr. Scott Armstrong “Of 89 principles [of forecasting], the UN IPCC violated 72.” Also See: Forecast Pioneers: Climate modelers violated 49 principles of forecasting - June 16, 2009) http://alturl.com/zp5f - General info. Another example... Obama claims that the Cap and Trade will leave the Earth 4-5 degrees cooler. What??? How can we accomplish this if the Earth has only risen about 1 degree in the past 100 years? Current government models only predict about another 1 degree rise by 2100. Are we going to put ice in the ocean and cool it off? This a small subset of web sites/links available. Many are activist groups on both sides. If you find one that is not an activist on one side or the other, follow the money!!! Like GE. Posted by: Margee Location: College Station Climate changes--it change before humans existed and it will change after we are gone. What is bogus is that human activity has any effect on it. Current "climate change models" can't even accurately account for past known weather or climate. How on earth can anyone rely on them for the future? Posted by: John Location: CS The climate is changing because of all the hot air coming out of the liberal left. The elimination of this group will severely cut back on carbon dioxide exhalations and will overall reduce our carbon footprint on the earth. Posted by: Lance Location: Lake Limestone The scientist that are predicting the earth's temperature in 2025 and 2050, are the same scientist that are not able to accuratley predict a 5 day forcast. Posted by: Lance Location: Lake Limeston You can name Al Gore "King of the World" and allow him to implement every environment saving agenda that he can produce and the World is still going to burn. We cant stop it, can we slow it down, maybe. We have a responsibility to take care of the Earth, but Politicians lie to put money in their pockets. Posted by: USAStandUp Location: College Station Please don't call the 1980 data points outliers or I'll do the same for the most recent high towards the end of 2005. It is interesting to note that if you plot the 1999 to 2009 data that the most recent data plots to a much lower pitch than previous data sets. I wonder if this is what they mean by climate change... highs.. lows? Yes I do understand the consequences of a small data set. But do you? And do the "sky is falling" proclaimers? The fact global warmers have mislead... LIED about the degree of change , their lack of true peer reviewed reports, the unwillingness to have open discussions, and the fact that the current cap and trade bill does NOTHING to substantially reduce CO2 output. This equates to we don't have the real picture and we cannot survive the tax at this time. Giving US dollars to third world countries will not reduce global CO2 emissions. China and India have to buy in. They are not. Let's find the FACTS and construct a plan that we can make happen. Posted by: USAStandUp Location: College Station Thank You! You proved my point exactly! Read my earlier posts again to realize what I was saying which is you can make numbers say anything. By the way, is the deviation around 1980 any greater a magnitude than we have now? So if we do have a change towards global warming... which we do but not man induced nor playing a significant contributor, what are the larger contributors to this issue? What about the recent buried DOD report from the army? FYI - it says solar. Another point you help bring forth is that if we take your example, observing the reported change per decade, we come up with a total change by the year 2100 of less that 1 degree F. Not what I repeat NOT... what is reported in the current propaganda. This does not even take into account the admitted errors in temperature recordings in the NOAA database reported by malfunctioning stations. The climate is changing but the current propaganda is wrong. PS. You fell into your own trap my mixing temperature and climate change. Posted by: Anonymous Location: Bryan USAStandup: as expected, plugging in the data from 1950 on, or 1895 which is a more meaningful starting point re the increase in C02 emissions globally, illustrates an upward trend line in temperature. I would submit that selectively parsing out short time periods constitutes data manipulation. Posted by: Anonymous Location: Bryan USAStandup: temperature variation is not the same as "climate change"...I assume you are aware of this. Most global warming models take into account, and explain, temporary cooling patterns. The data from 1950 show a very different story; when you are dealing with basic statistics, small N samples like 11 years are essentially meaningless...as meaningless as suggesting that this summer's average temps demonstrate global warming IS occurring, vs. examining the more meaningful time-series. Posted by: Non Socialist Location: Bryan I sure miss America. I have lived in Oboma Socialist Empire for 7 Months now and believe very little of what politicians are doing for us or our earth. Global warming is all about the money. Do you remember when controlling the weather was only on cartoons with bad guys trying to control the world. Please wake up and change the channel. Plenty of other people have provided facts against global warmining and are often suppressed in their coverage. The press loves our new rock star president and will support him until he becomes Suppreme Ruler of this miss lead Empire based on lies such as global warming. Wake Up America!! Posted by: USAStandUp Location: College Station Alex, you need not post "Anonymous"... really. How about this. "Go to NOAA’s United States Climate Survey page. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/cag3/na.html Leave the “Data Type” field at “Mean Temperature”, select “Year to date” in the “Period” field, select “1998″ in the “First Year To Display” field and then click the blue “Submit” oval at the bottom. What you will learn is that for January to May period we see cooling at a rate of -1.46 degrees per decade. That is 14.6 degrees per century! Go back and change the period to “Most recent 12-month period” and submit it again and you see cooling since 1998 at a rate of -0.6 degrees per decade or 6 degrees per century. At this rate of cooling we should start seeing glacial advance soon in places like Montana, British Columbia, and Alaska." Try it. Proves my point that most of the data is manipulated to provide evidence for a cause, and not a good one at that. It's not a hoax by the non-believers but the other way around. Posted by: roy Location: iola does any one know the largest greenhouse gas componet there is? Its water vapor http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html 95% greenhouse gases is water vapor.... 99.72% is the natural componet of all greenhouse gases and .28% (.0028) is the manmade componet. Lets get real on trying to cut "our part". If we cut by 50% that saves .14% and I dont think that will be any help. I'll go along with the "global warming" crap if we can in 20 years sue Al Gore for eveypenny he has for the hoax and the false promise that we can actually control the climate.. Posted by: Anonymous Location: Bryan While many groups are cited in this thread as "scientists," NO legitimate national or international scientific body EXCEPT the American Association Petroleum Geologists has offered a dissenting opinion on the position that humans have in fact contributed to global warming, at a minimum during the last 50 years. Even the Federal Climate Change Science Program established by President Bush in 2002 concluded that "the observed pattern of change over the past 50 years cannot be explained by natural causes alone." Same panel concluded in 2008 that C02 was largely the culprit. I see a lot of references here to the "agendas of the left." I see little mention of the agendas of fossil fuel industries and their ilk in suppressing or denying evidence that is now by and large accepted by every legitimate scientific organization on the planet. Easier to live in denial I guess. Posted by: Warrior against the NWO USA Standup has it right! Global environmentalism is all about global governance. This global control conspiracy started a long time ago - check out the 25-point plan that would enable the world bankers to gain control of the wealth, natural resources and manpower of the entire world at http://www.spingola.com/before_rockefeller.htm Their strategy is all about deception and fooling the masses. Posted by: Randy Location: Bryan "If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell."- Gen Phillip Sheridan 1831-88 on remarking about the Texas temperatures.. No climate change to note. It seems one need to go back at least 200 years and look at the temperatures. Posted by: stanton I have always had an interest in the weather and since I was a boy back in the 50's there have been cycles in weather patterns. I believe it continues to this date. Talk about fear mongering, just mention Al "global warming" Gore' name. Posted by: Karen McCauley Location: Peachtree City, GA I think the climate is always changing, from the dinosaurs to record breaking blizzards in the 1970's, to the dust bowls of the 20's-30's. The weather has always been the topic of doom and gloom. Review your weather history. Posted by: USA StandUp Location: College Station 2 day later... my last post noted control and greed were the drivers. Please see http://www.climatedepot.com/a/1893/Gore-US-Climate-Bill-Will-Help-Bring-About-Global-Governance. Before you brand me a conspiracy nut, please note the source. Also don't tell me I misinterpreted what it says. Note that the La Nina is reported gone. Thanks goodness as now we will see ans increase in moisture in the US on the west coast and mountain areas. Every place along the Pacific Rim needs the rain. I guess we will not have to wait until 2015 now. Source: NOAA. I know..... it's just a conspiracy and I'm being played. Yeah right. Get a book, go online, and read. DO NOT BE MISLEAD BY MSM! THE SAD PART OF ALL THIS IS THAT MSM BELIEVES SUPPORTING THE AGENDA OF OUR CURRENT ADMINISTRATION, THEY WILL BE ALL THE MORE POWERFUL. IN REALITY, THEY ARE JUST POWERLESS PUPPETS. Posted by: pie Location: arizona Nature movies in its own speed and we humans have been in a rush since 8:oo am and not seeing the change. our knowldge about this can be seen yet we ignore it and keep tryig to stay on track my greatgrandmother was a farmer in camp verde arizona area and to san carlos she'd always laughed because we were in a rush and didnt see the corn grow the change is happening the earth's history is awsome you should read it some time its easy as opening the door. San Carlos Apache Posted by: sammie click on this link and see what cap & trade will do to Texas, it ain't pretty. http://www.window.state.tx.us/finances/captrade/ Posted by: Alan Location: College Station OK everybody. Look up TIME Magazine June 12, 1974. The title of the article was " Another Ice Age?" The same environmental types were telling us that, by now, in the year 2000, the Earth was going to be covered with ice due to "ENVIRONMENTAL COOLING", and man was causing it. It didn't happen because environmental cooling was not happening. The U.S experienced temperatures like we have today in 1932 and 1933 in the central plains down into Texas during a period they refer to as the dust bowl era. Actually it was hotter. Man only inhabits about 17% of the Earth's surface as only 27% of the Earth's surface is land mass. There is not enough of us to destroy it, or it's atmosphere. Some act of nature, (asteroid etc.) will destroy Earth before man ever will. If there is anything out there that is sure to destroy man,,,it is man himself. That you can count on. Posted by: USAStandUp Location: College Station In continuation of the last post.... There is more than enough evidence to support the "non-believers" in their denial of global warming. I have made up my mind that I would like to call this a hoax, but I will not. I will call it greed and control. There is more than enough evidence to support that claim. To the ultimate goal, I'll stand by my comments that we should be good stewards. Programs to minimize our footprint should be established. The current legislation is nothing but a job costing tax to spread the wealth. PERIOD. If you don't believe it will cost jobs, then how come the Dems have finally admitted it will and gone so far as put language in the bill to allow benefits for this misplaced. (tell me again where/how these benefit payments will funded?) A free market solution for mandated environmental goals is the preferable choice. (I'll probably catch a few hits on that one.) Ditch the ethanol plan or at least go to switch grass or soy. Hundreds of better solutions than tax. Posted by: USAStandUp Location: College Station Alex, The last post was above my expectations from you. It shows in the response that it was very hard for you to take the reasonable approach to a discussion. To set the record straight for you I do believe the climate is changing all the time. Is it "man caused"? NO. Is man (civilization) having some influence on the change? Perhaps but from what I have read there is not enough evidence to support that conclusion. What makes me made like Eddie is the obvious agenda by the GW supporters. There is plenty of actual confirmed reported cases of misrepresentation by GW supporters. Why is this not in MSM like the reports of the Antarctica eastern ice shelf actually increasing in mass? Another example of why the distrust and disbelief of the government tax proposal. Look at the truth and transparency we receive -> http alturl dot com slash aced. Too many agendas for people that receive government funding that will be cut off if they don't have something to claim their service is invaluable. Posted by: DT Alex, how do you ignore the EPA's own study showing that Earth has cooled over the past 11 years and that man-made global warming may not even be a factor. Hmmmm? BTW: Consensus is not science. As Albert Einstein said when told that 100 scientist had taken issue with his Theory of Relativity, he replied: “It doesn't take 100 scientists, it takes one fact”. Posted by: USAStandUp Location: College Station Kyle-AG03 I agree with your observations about the left wing liberal response to a discussion. After name calling fails they resort to yelling/screaming obscenities, then it degrades to 'Why are you picking on me' and crying big tears. Other bad left ideas: mandated house full of mercury filled bulbs VS outlawed mercury thermometer, battery powered cars that use batteries more damaging to the environment than CO2 output of modern internal combustion engines. That said, I personally agree with several posters that we should be good stewards to to Earth's resources and to our neighbor. The term going 'Green' gets a bad name by the ecology nuts and MSM's support of the groups. We really should recycle, minimize stream runoff contamination, water conservation, etc. It takes no extraordinary effort to do this. The results of these simple actions are real and quantifiable. But I do believe we should be building nuclear power plants at a rapid pace and Drill Baby! Drill! Posted by: Alex Location: Bryan The evidence for climate change is real, it is out there, and despite obfuscations from various non-reliable sources, is irrefutable. And as Michael notes, climate and weather are indeed distinct. Happy to debate whether WE are responsible for this warming, though new NASA data this month on C02 emissions is yet another layer of data that suggests we are. If you want to rail against politicians who exploit this issue for taxation or legislative reasons, fair enough. And I agree that NON-scientists like Al Gore are piss-poor substitutes for real scientists. But to look at actual DATA and say "No I don't like what I see..the sky is actually green" is simply strange..bizarre...deluded...and ultimately simply wrong, period. The record of history shows unequivocally that scientific discoveries are not accepted by the mass public for years. This will be one more example. Willing to place bets here and now that if we all revisit this forum in 10 years, global warming will be FACT. Posted by: Anonymous Our government is using "Climate Change" to beat us over the head with more taxes. (See HR2454). We should be drilling for oil,, and burning coal like crazy, all the while developing renewable sources. Posted by: Hank Location: CS I would think possibly the "pot" ie earth is changing and the "air" is only able to produce the results. Thank being said, nothing is static and to think a bump on the log ie "man" has a lot to do with it is a little out in left field. No offense to basballers. Posted by: Winston Location: Caldwell The real obserdity is that anyone thinks they can do anything about it or control it if it was true. Think about it, these are some of the same brilliant scientists that were screaming about another coming ice age in the late seventies and early eighties. But back to the obserdity that anyone thinks they can control it. What is the magic temperature average that is acceptable? 4 degrees lower? 8 degrees lower? How will that be controlled or maintained. If is gets way too cool, are laws going to be passed mandating that all citizens start driving SUV's so that we can increase the average temperatures back to where they supposedly should be? This is beyond rediculous and the sad part about it is that the people running this country don't really care at all about pollution or gobal warming, it's simply a political tool for them. Posted by: Winston Location: Caldwell Regardless of which side of the isle you are on and regardless of whether global warming is true or not, the issue is indeed going to be used to tax people to the point that they can barely afford to provide for their families. After all, who was it that said you can't let a good crisis go to waste. Yes, it is going to be used to control people. Al Gore....the man has lost his sanity....comparing Global Warming to the war on Nazi Germany...but that is the goal which is to create panic and fear so that people will buy in to anything regardless of how false or how ineffective the so called solutions are. Posted by: Stephanie Location: College Station I agree with the comments before me; global warming is merely a political fallacy. For those of you who say you refuse to "go green" though, why? It doesn't take much effort, and recycling and using less energy definitely does help keep our earth cleaner. That is pure ignorance and selfishness on your part to not try to do better. No, the climate is not changing as in global warming, it has always been changing... but that is a completely separate issue from going green and trying to keep the earth clean and not completely use up all our resources for future generations. Posted by: Michael Location: College Station It's important to understand the difference between climate and weather. Weather is the day to day changes that are easily noticed. Climate involves long-term trends that are not easily noticed. Additionally climate change occurs globally. While the Brazos valley might not see much change places like Alaska have already seen temperatures increase, spring arriving sooner, ice melting faster and to a greater extent than before. It's true that for most of the Earth's history temperatures have been warmer than they are now but changing temperatures isn't the whole story. The issue is the speed at which they are changing. Nature can't adapt with the same speed that we are changing the climate. Anyone with short term local views is deluding themselves. Climate change is real and anyone who only gets their information from a few sources (biased or not) will not understand the larger implications and will be susceptible to fear mongering messages from both sides of politics. Learn the truth. Posted by: Kyle-Ag03 Location: Bryan Thank you Alex for demonstrating the typical, liberal mindset. Someone doesn't agree with you, so your only reply is to belittle and attempt to slander them. Posted by: Erci Location: College Station Hopefully Easterwood's weather monitoring station is not inaccurate due to the hot pavement (past and present). I know there has been locations nationwide that have had the problem of inaccurate temperatures due to pavement heating. Posted by: Anonymous Location: TAMU Whos right and who is wrong on global warming shouldn't matter. Regardless of climate change, we are still polluting the HE!! out of our planet. Pick and choose your battles people. Posted by: Alex Location: Bryan I have to say, even though everyone else took a contrary position, that I am proud (and I am serious) to live in a place with so many freaks and weirdos and ersatz conspiracy theorists. I bet the pulsating nexus of George Noory's "AM Coast to Coast" is in our own blessed BCS. I can't wait for KBTX to raise questions about creation "science" and cattle mutilations. Posted by: Junior Location: Kollej Stashun YOu know, I wuz freakin out this mornin wen the temps were in the 80s, then it got hotter and hotter and I wuz about to die! The world is endin cauz of global warmun. But, now I can see why they calls it climute change, cuz it shore nuf changed again when the SUN went down and all. Now i be quite cumfurtabel again and my ac iz barely on right now. aint it amayzing! Boy, I shur loves the Earf! Abortion, Global Warming, Over Population, Homosexual Pride, Destruction of the Family, etc. is just the religion of the left, with the self as a God in the center of it all! Posted by: Teabagger Location: BCS The earth is cooling by at least 10 degrees per year, just ask boss Limbaugh because he is an expert scientist who isn't biased by the liberal media. Posted by: rob Location: college station Global warming is a fake,there are multiple studies that show it is.Am i or will I go green or teach my kids to go green?....NO! Posted by: Heather Location: Bryan Debating whether or not climate change is real is not the best approach. The question should be: What is the right thing to do? Living lighter on the earth (consuming less, taking care of the environment of which we are very much a part, supporting our local economy by eating locally produced whole foods, etc) is simply the right thing to do, regardless of the result. Posted by: Kyle-Ag03 Location: Bryan During the early Middle Ages, it was warmer than it is today. It was so warm in the British Isles, grapes could be grown in Scotland to produce wine which rivaled the best French product. Then all of a sudden, the "Little Ice Age" occurred and devastated Europe. We did not fully come out of the Little Ice Age until the early 20th century, although it did last long enough to ruin the Titanic's maiden voyage. The rising and falling temperatures are part of a natural cycle which has been going on since this planet was created. "Global Warming" is nothing but a hoax being pushed by the far left for one reason, to use it in order to gain absolute control over the American people. Their plans will result in the US becoming a third world country, with a standard of living in the toilet which is what they want. It is easier to control citizens who are dependent on the government in order to survive. Posted by: guy Location: navasota no it is away to get more tax money with out doing any thing for it & buying votes & padding there pockits. Posted by: glenn Location: bryan The weather is always changing but actually the planet has cooled down in the last ten years . the global warming nuts would like you to think otherwise . that way way they can pass a agenda of fear to people to make their own plans feasable !!!!!!!!! Posted by: USAStandUp Location: College Station Alex, The statement you reported that Goddard has made on La Nina, "naturally occurring variations like La Nina will mask the effect of global warming until roughly 2015." invalidates the the Global Warming models put forth by the bribed UN scientists. I know, you will say the same thing they say... it's too complex to model. Yep, the sky is falling. If a model cannot accurately account for all possible inputs to the model, then the model is someone's clever statistical manipulation to provide evidence to support some cause. What is this cause? Does anyone know how/what this penalty tax is to be spent on by the government? You better take a look at the fine print as this money will not even be spent in a way to help reduce any of the perceived "man made" influencing factors. This is a way for the government to provide additional wealth redistribution to a select few (Gore and friends) and overseas countries. Call your senator and tell them to vote NO! Posted by: CS LIFER Location: CS Yep, just ask, Al Gore! The idiot is making a killing selling his bill of goods to people who cannot or will not think logically. Weather and climate cycle. Look at the records from years past. It will always be this way! Posted by: Tracy Location: College Station Of course it is changing. It goes in cycles. That is what it is supposed to do. That's the way God made it. Is it caused by greenhouse gasses or anything that humans are doing? OF COURSE NOT! Posted by: James Location: Bryan If the ozone layer gets thinner, ultraviolet radiation sears the earth, so what? Ultraviolet radiation is good for life. It’s powerful energy. It promotes mutation, change. Many forms of life will thrive with more UV radiation. Many others will die out. Do you think this is the first time that’s happened? Think about oxygen. Necessary for life now, but oxygen is actually a metabolic poison, a corrosive gas, like fluorine. When oxygen was first produced as a waste product by certain plant cells some three billion years ago, it created a crisis for all other life on earth. Those plants were polluting the environment, exhaling a lethal gas. Earth eventually had an atmosphere incompatible with life. Nevertheless, life on earth took care of itself. Posted by: joe Location: bcs Rodney the natural order of the universe is change. I think in thermodyamics there is a law that states that "the disorder of the universe is ever increasing and it takes work to maintain a constant order". Only man pretends things are constant naturally. ((ever watch an ice cube melt, then refreeze it...does it reform the cube?) In reality it takes man's work to keep it so. Thus climate is changing and the only way you can keep it from changing is to work on it...personally i have better things to do....since the climate has done well taking care of itself for the last 4 billion years. Posted by: Patsy Rose Location: Somerville I know that it's been this hot before but wow...when you open up the door and feel like you are walking into an oven you know it's way too hot. Stay inside. Posted by: Benjamin Location: Anderson, TX The earth's climate is changing. Always has, always will. At least until the sun goes nova and dies. "Climate Change" has taken the place of "global warming" among the globalists and environmental nutjobs ( and not a few well meaning but uninformed folks) because the earth stopped warming; "an inconvenient truth". We are in much more danger from a cooling climate than a warming one because agriculture will suffer mightily if we lose even a couple of degrees. Then what do we eat? See the little ice age and the demise of the Vikings along with the Dark Ages and the Black Death for your answer. Posted by: nik Location: bryan The climate is always changing. As to what that means is the subject up for debate. Is it natural cycles? Is it due to man? I personally believe both, and I think that when it comes down to it- Sure, we may not be able to stop natural cycles playing thru, but we can help to try to not cause more harm than good. The whole political standpoint on taxing emissions is a way to get people an incentive to lower their emissions (which isn't a bad thing- if not for global warming, how about pollution?). Probably isn't going to work, but it's one small step. The earth has gone thru natural cycles since it's earliest momments. We aren't going to be able to change that. People keep looking for a simple answer- either somthing we can fix, or something that takes the blame off us. That's just human nature. Should we do nothing to change ourselves and let the planet do its thing? Or should we try to preserve the health of our world? Even if there's no man made global warming, is this what we want? Posted by: James Location: Brenham Global warming is nothing more than a political statement. A pure HOAX. It is a religion practiced by a lot of uninformed people. Thay have already cost us billions of dollars and are now attempting to extract many more dollars from anyone who pays an electric bill. Note that the production of carbon dioxide has gone up greatly in the last few years because of the industrial activity in China and India but the temperature has been cooling since 1998. Posted by: Lanny Location: College Station I have one thing to say! Anyone that believes Al Gore needs serious psychiatric help. Al Gore is making lots of money off the people who believe in global warming. Enough said. Posted by: david Location: college station Rodney, your question is too broad. Here are the real questions... Is our climate changing? If it is changing is this caused by man or nature? If it is caused by man, can we reverse it? If we can reverse it, are the options currently being pursued (ex: cap and trade) the most effective to reverse the man made effects of climate change? I personally think climate change is naturally occuring, but I like the questions above (shamelessly taken from Penn Jillette the illusionist) as they break the climate change issue down rather than lumping all of these complex issues into one question of "is the climate changing?" Posted by: Clarence Location: CS Weather and climate run in CYCLES! If people in congress really believed in global warming and a rise in sea levels because of melted glaciers why are the same congressmen voting to re-build New Orleans, which would be the first to flood? Somebody answer me that!! Posted by: Alex Location: Bryan Rebecca, the earth has been getting colder (according to the Goddard Institute among others) for the last 4 years because of La Nina. Reports by this institute state that "naturally occurring variations like La Nina will mask the effect of global warming until roughly 2015." Let's revisit this conversation in 6 years and see where the data fall. Posted by: Alex Location: Bryan Rebecca, one piece of evidence the earth is getting colder. I know of no non-biased reputable scientific organization that propounds this view, and not a single peer-reviewed in depth study that suggests this. Quite the opposite. As for indoctrination, you believe scientists and scientific evidence, or you believe politicians like Senator Inhofe and talk show hosts like Limbaugh. Where exactly is the indoctrination coming from? I believe it is from the denial side. Posted by: dt Alex, try http://www.petitionproject.org/ Did man affect sea levels 20,000 years ago? http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/gornitz_09/ Or how about Arctic ice decreasing being offset by increases in sea ice volume in the Antarctic? http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2005/sea_ice.html Climate changes, sea levels change. So let's tax that! Posted by: Cliff Location: Brenham Anyone who believes that Climate Change is largely human influenced has severely overstated the capability of humans. One small fact that the "Sky is Falling", Global Warming crowd can not ever rebut is the very simple fact that any run of the mill, erupts every 10,000 or so years bigger than average volcano will do more in one or two days to "damage" the Earth, then we little humans ever will. It has happened over and over, and will again. And guess what? The planet fixes itself and life goes on. Glaciers come and go. The oceans rise and fall. Temperatures vary from year to year. It's what the planet does. The Earth is always changing without one bit of human influence. If you read most of the writings of the kooks that propagate such Global Warming nonsense, you find it full contradictions that they never even try to offer a scientific explanation for. By the way, the whole idea is nothing new. These same folks started this thing way back in the sixties to scare people. Posted by: Rod The Earth's climate has changed and will continue to change no matter what we do. Remember the wooly mammoths? Seen one lately? Posted by: Alex Location: Bryan dt: re Glaciers, World Glacial Monitoring Service and National Snow and Ice Data Center both have noted accelerated glacier melt since 1995. Google picture after picture of glaciers in Switzerland, South America, Alaska, etc. Since 1992 satellites have been recording measureable rises in sea levels. Archipelagos being evacuated are not exactly made up events. I don't know what report of 31000 scientists you are referring to who reject global warming. I do know that since 1988, the campaign to debunk global warming has been one of the greatest funded political movements in our time. The U.S. continues to lag behind the rest of the world in accepting what the majority of real scientists already know: that this is a reality. Hell ultimately I really don't care, since I don't have kids or grandkids who will grow up in a greenhouse. Good luck to those of you who do. Posted by: Rebecca Location: College Station Alex wrote, "They grossly exaggerate the economic risks of emission reduction, and downplay the risk of unmitigated climate change." This is what mystifies me. You are so willing to believe that the cost to each of us of passing the climate bill will be minimal because certain politicians say it won't be that bad, yet you won't believe the people whose business it is to KNOW the cost of doing business, when they say it will add thousands of dollars of expense to each home, each year - in electrical bills alone. It is truly scary how well indoctrination works in this country. Sad too, as we used to be able to think for ourselves. Well, at least some of us still can. The only risk we take about the climate is not listening to the truth about what is really happening. It is getting colder, not warmer. That really will cause us some problems, especially when the cost of electricity goes up. Alex, you should also revisit the Co2 cause - effect info. Better yet, listen to molloaggie. Posted by: dt To Van, Alex, and Kap: Where's your proof that a) the planet is warming b) sea levels are rising c) glaciers are melting? There is plenty of evidence to the contrary. Enough that 31,000 U.S. scientists - 9,000 with doctorate degrees in atmospheric science, climatology, Earth science, environment and other specialties - have signed a petition rejecting global warming. Posted by: Rebecca Location: College Station Actually, we are lucky to have such sources as Fox News and talk radio. At least we can find the truth somewhere that way. As George Orwell once wrote: "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." Viva la revolucion!! Alex, there was also mounting evidence that the hole in the ozone layer was growing out of control, until we finally got it thru to the ignorami that ozone is made by the sun - and the sun does not shine for 6 months out of the year at the pole - so DUH - the ozone layer gets thin or disappears at the pole. This has happened for so long that the animals there have adapted. Notice you don't hear anything in the news about that "crisis" anymore do you? The "media" and politicians got nowhere with that scare tactic, just like acid rain, so now it is global warming. I'm just surprised that we haven't all dropped dead from fluoride in the water - gasp. Posted by: Kap Location: Bryan Global warming is real. You may be able to debate the cause, but the average temperatures are increasing. Posted by: Van Location: College Station It is clearly getting warmer over the past century, and I do not believe the correlation with amount of greenhouses gases being pumped into the atmosphere over the same time period can be ignored. It is just sad that so many Americans are so ignorant as reflected by many of the comments here. It is unfortunate that many of these same people get their information from sources such as Fox News and talk radio. Posted by: Alex Location: Bryan The issue is not "two scorching weeks in Texas." I too remember 1998 and other summers. The issue is the mountain of evidence of the observable consequences that things are heating up: glacial melt, plants moving higher up mountains to grow (along with many animals), decreased weight in newer generations of some species, rising sea levels that have already affected islands and their inhabitants, sea ice levels, warm water fish now permanent inhabitants of northern regions, and on and on. This is not made up or "political crap." Unfortunately the real depth of the problem is being obscured by idiots on both sides. Posted by: Bob Osso Only 34% of US voters now believe that global warming is caused by human activity. People are starting to catch on to this scam. The comments here reflect that. Posted by: dt Climate change? Yes. Man-made climate change, no. Right on Rebecca. Get a clue Alex. You trust the U.N., an organization created and run by communist who continually tear down the U.S.? The Clean Energy Bill punishes America's prosperity, sending billions of tax dollars to foreign countries who refuse to participate in any carbon reduction. There is so much evidence that global warming doesn't exist that it is mind-boggling that EVERYONE doesn't realize this scam. (Thank our relentless mass media for that!) So many premises about climate change is wrong. For example, CO2 levels rose 800-1000 years AFTER periods of warming, NOT before. Also, CO2 levels were about 10 times higher 150 million years ago, during the dinosaur age. Sea ice levels are higher now than when satellite records began. Doubt me? Do your research. John Coleman's essay about the "Global Warming" fraud explaining how those in agreement get the grant money. Follow the $$! Posted by: Melissa Location: Earth Climate is not static, it changes and will continue to change. That is a fact. Do we have anything to do with it? Doubful, but not beyond possibility. Personaly, I believe it is vanity to presume humanity can cause any lasting effect on the global climate--except maybe the aftermath of nuclear war on a gigantic scale. For the alarmists, two scorching weeks in Texas does not a Global Warming make. Posted by: Anonymous Global warming is just a bunch of political crap! Posted by: molloaggie Location: Bryan The sun is the greatest factor in global climate change. Scientist also keep tabs now on temperature changes on other planets and have found that their averages change in unison with ours. Sun spot data kept for thousands of years is also showing a direct influence by the sun. The public is not being educated about carbon dioxide. Water vapor and methane are much better at hold heat than CO2. The public also hears such large numbers about CO2 being put into the atmosphere but they are not told how BIG the atmosphere is for comparison. Our CO2 output is teeny tiny compared to the amount of gasses already in the atmosphere! Posted by: Sammie Of course the climate is changing, it's been changing since day one and it will continue to change until we blow ourselves and the planet up. If man today is responsible for the so-called global warming, which in reality is global cooling, then just what did the cavemen do to cause the ice age? This whole climate change/global warming is just one big moneymaking scam to raise taxes and for politicians and has been celebs to make money. The US is cleaner today than it's ever been. The govt is being run by fringe groups, PETA wants cows to stop farting, how stupid is that? Their solution is to tax the rancher, well, that's not going to stop any so-called farts coming from a cow, and cows don't fart anyway, they belch. This is the time to seriously consider seceding from the rest of the country before we're all on a breadline! Posted by: Pat Location: Bryan Yes, it has been changing every year since the earth was formed. How hot was it when Texas was below sea level? Posted by: Alex Location: Bryan Rebecca, are you serious? I have read the NIPCC report as well as their earlier one. Some obvious observations: They grossly exaggerate the economic risks of emission reduction, and downplay the risk of unmitigated climate change. The two way cause-effect relationship between temperature and CO2 is not properly recognized. Their strong claim of shaking the foundations of climate science is extremely unlikely; They don’t provide compelling evidence for such an extraordinary claim; They vastly overestimate the likelihood of cooling effects (feedbacks), and underestimate, deny or ignore warming effects. Some of the authors have historical credentials in a relevant discipline, more than a few have not. The list of signatories at the end is very thin on relevant expertise. The Heartland Institute is a conservative think-tank and not a reliable source of scientific information. Science is about weighing the evidence (something the NIPCC report grossly fails doing). Posted by: Eric Location: College Station Yes, the climate is changing. It is a normal pattern the Earth goes through. There is proof the Earth goes through warm and cold periods. We are currently on the top of the warm period and are about to go go into a cooling period within the next 100 years. Now are we accelerating this process? Probably, but not enough to be alarmed. The Earth has ways to heal itself, just like is has in the past. Remember the dinosaurs? There were high levels of CO2 back then, and the earth went into a cooling period. I'm not alarmed. But I am scared of what the government could and would do to combat this nonsense. No another subject we should be worried about, polar shift. That is something that will happen in the next few hundred years. Posted by: Loraly Location: Wellborn Yes the climate changes. It's supposed to go through cylces. Get over it! Posted by: Anonymous Location: CS I'm pleasantly surprised to see there are educated people on this board. The founder of The Weather Channel, John Coleman, is quoted as saying,"Global Warming is the greatest scam in hisory." What sank the Titanic in 1912? AN ICEBERG! Posted by: Kyle Location: Huntsville Global Warming is nothing more than crisis design to pass legislation to reduce our use of fossil fuels. Elitist do not like to wait in traffic jams caused by common prople. Or wait in line at airports. It's that simple. Posted by: Rebecca Location: College Station The U.N. scientists? What an oxymoron. The conclusion of "global warming" is soundly refuted in "Climate Change Reconsidered", coauthored by Dr. S. Fred Singer and Dr. Craig Idso. In nine chapters citing thousands of peer-reviewed research papers and books that were ignored by the UN, plus new scientific research that became available after the UN report’s deadline, the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC) marks a new chapter in the debate over global warming. I guess it is easier to believe the sky is falling than it is to do actual research and think for yourself. The vast majority of "scientists" that are pushing global warming are, let's see, former politicians (Al Gore), psychologists, socialogists, general studies majors, etc. There are few, very few actual scientists among them. Alex, so did your computer crash with Y2K? Bet you believed that one too. Posted by: Alex Location: Bryan The evidence is incontrovertible that the climate IS changing as evidenced by rising annual mean temperatures, retreating glaciers, rising sea levels that have already displaced people, and other easily observable indicators. To deny this, quite simply, is to deny the sky is blue. The secondary question of whether WE are responsible is more debatable. But again, the weight of evidence and the number of "real" scientists who say we are, to date still outweighs those who say otherwise. Personally I'll trust the U.N. scientists' panel on climate change over Rush Limbaugh any day of the week. Posted by: Anonymous YES EVERYDAY Posted by: Rebecca Location: College Station Well, according to REAL scientists, like Dr. Daniel Schrag of Harvard; Claude Allegre, one of the most decorated French geophysicists; Dr. Richard Lindzen, professor of Atmospheric Sciences, MIT; Dr. Patrick Michaels, University of Virginia: Dr. Fred Singer; Professor Bob Carter, geologist at James Cook University, Australia; and the 85 scientists and climate experts who signed the 1995 Leipzeg Declaration which called drastic climate controls "ill-advised, lacking credible support from the underlying science; 17,000 scientists and leaders involved in climate study who signed a petition issued by the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine saying there is no evidence green house gasses cause global warming; and the 4,000 scientists and leaders from around the world, including 70 Nobel Prize winners, who signed the Heidelberg Appeal calling greenhouse global warming theories "highly uncertainly scientific theories" - I'd say that there is NO GLOBAL WARMING. It's all political nonsense. Posted by: Josh Location: Mad'ville Climate change is another way the political left is trying to push an agenda and impose unneeded taxes on the people of this great nation. No the climate is not changing. Posted by: Thomas No our climate is not changing. Just research the weather history. Global warming is just a bunch of political BS. Posted by: Vern Location: College Station Climate change is all hog wash. |
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