Head of Leon Schools Addresses Altercation Allegations
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Posted: 11:50 PM Mar 23, 2008
 Last Updated: 11:50 PM Mar 23, 2008
 Reporter: Ashlea Sigman
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An issue's been dividing the halls of Leon High School. "I'd go further than that. I'd say the school is divided, the parents are divided, the community is divided," said Leon Superintendent Jay Winn.

It all goes back to what happened in the high school office, about a month ago. A teacher asked a male student to deliver a note to the band room. The band teacher thought the messenger was rude and disruptive, and brought the student to Principal David Jones' office.

Jones admitted to Winn that he and the student got into a loud, verbal argument. "One teacher said when she first heard it, she got behind the copy machine," said Winn.

The student told Winn, that when Jones wouldn't listen to him, he started to walk out. The student alleges Jones grabbed him by the shoulder, and pulled his shirt collar over his ear.

Winn says the next day, the student and his father showed up at his office. "He showed me the bruise and there was a bruise, a significant bruise, on top of the left shoulder of the student," said Winn.

Winn says a nurse verified that the bruise was made in the last 24 hours. Jones was then placed on administrative leave. Jones isn't commenting on the incident, but denies grabbing the student.

Four people say they saw what happened that day, the student, the teacher who brought the student to the office, the school secretary, and Jones.

"Three statements were somewhat consistent and there was one statement that was not consistent with the other statements," said Winn.

The Leon County Sheriff's department has turned over the case to the county attorney. Winn says that hasn't stopped everyone in the community from coming to their own conclusions. After hearing talk in the community and reading comments at KBTX.COM, Winn says he checked the student's discipline record.

"I would not classify this young man as a discipline problem. I looked back more than just one year," said Winn.

Winn says he'd like everyone to take a step back and let justice run its course. "I don't know for sure what is going to happen in this situation, but I do know one thing. We are not going to mistreat students at Leon School."

The student involved spent some time in ISS for trying to leave the office. Winn says he and the district's elementary and junior high principals have been filling in, during Jones' absence.

The school board is waiting to see what, if anything, the County Attorney does with the case. At that point, it will decide what to do next.
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Posted by: no one's side Location: marquez on Apr 21, 2009 at 07:46 AM
I remained neutral in this case because I liked Mr. Jones and Mr. Winn and didn't know the boy involved. I don't always agree with the school board, but try to keep my opinion to myself. I feel it is our job to get out and vote to elect the proper school board members, as it is their job to make the right decisions. I don't know if any of you will see this a year later, but the case was dropped on Mr. Jones. The boy who accused him of grabbing him and leaving bruises lied and his girlfriend turned him in. I've done a lot of praying for EVERYONE in this matter, and I hope that all hearts will be healed someday. I hope that everyone learned a lesson about passing judgement. After all, we are not to judge people, that is for our Savior to do on judgement day!
Posted by: You said it Location: Jewett on Mar 26, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Simon D, look at what you just said, you can't believe Jones earned so much hatred from just this one incident...Maybe that is because he didn't from just this one incident. A person doesn't have to have an axe to grind to be tired of children being treated poorly by anyone.
Posted by: To the person who wrote back to Leon Observer Location: Leon on Mar 26, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Jones a dictator? Winn a leader? "Jones is too proud and to good to pick up anybody elses trash", I ask you, and im sure you'll reply back in a lie, but would you honestly go to high school and pick up every student's trash just to be a fine leader? The answer is no and I don't care what you say because its true. Why would students expect Jones to pick up their trash, why would anyone expect another person to throw away your trash when you're fully capeable of doing it yourself? Jones does his job perfectly. Winn is just coming in behind Jones acting like he is the most laid back, fun, honest man. Throwing snowballs INSIDE the school's cafetaria? Picking up kids trash so they don't have to be put out to actually get up and throw their trash away? Winn is just trying to win the students over, but it's not happening. Jones a dictator? No, he's the leader! Winn a leader? No, he's the snake.
Posted by: Jailhouse Location: Reality on Mar 26, 2008 at 08:37 PM
A hot head does not belong in a position of authority of anyone especially a minor child. Perhaps the opportunity to cool his heels behind bars for assaulting this child would do him some good. From the comments made here it is obvious that the prosecution will have a hard time finding a jury that will be fair to the victim of this crime. A change of venue is what is needed. Let the jurors in another county hear the evidence and lock up the guilty party.
Posted by: TO Earn Respect? Location: Buffalo on Mar 26, 2008 at 08:02 PM
To "Earn Respect?", So you insist your child show respect to adults regardless? If that is the case, as you claim, your child respects Charles Manson, Paris Hilton, Brittany Speers and the Virgina Tech gunman as well as this David Jones character just to name a few. Wow! I certainly hope a pedophile never goes anywhere near your child. Your poor child will probably not run away because he has been taught to respect the creep because he is an adult. Pretty scary if you ask me.
Posted by: Earn Respect? on Mar 26, 2008 at 05:35 PM
I agree with you, Simon D. Since when do adults have to "earn" a child's respect? While I admit there are some adults out there that are no more mature than a 3 year old, respect should be given regardless. If my son doesn't like an adult's opinions/ideas, that's fine but he darned well better RESPECT HIM/HER REGARDLESS. I've punished my teenager for giving an adult a look I deemed disprespectful before. You want to take me to court next?
Posted by: Cameron Location: Jewett on Mar 26, 2008 at 05:10 PM
I WAS CURRENTLY ATTENDING LEON HIGH SCHOOL WHEN MR.JONES OR (COACH JONES) AS I'VE ALWAYS KNOWN HIM STARTED TEACHING AND COACHING. HE WAS ALWAYS LOOKING OUT FOR EVERYONE AND ALWAYS TREATED EVERYONE EQUAL. HE IS A GOOD CHRISTIAN MAN WHO IS ALWAYS WILLING TO HELP OUT ANYONE WITH A NEED. TO SIT HERE AND HEAR AND READ ALL THESE OTHER NEGATIVE COMMENTS BEING MADE ABOUT A PERSON THAT I'VE ALWAYS LOOKED UP TO IS FRUSTRATING. I DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE STORY AND PROBABLY NEVER WILL, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS INCIDENT GOT AS VIOLENT AS EVERYONE IS MAKING OUT. THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT ARE MADE BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE ONLY SEEN THIS STORY ON THE NEWS OR HEARD ABOUT VIA THE NEXT MAN WHICH ALWAYS TURNS OUT TWISTED AFTER THE FACT. IF THIS YOUNG MAN DID NOT SHOW COACH JONES RESPECT WHO'S TO SAY HE SHOWS HIS OWN FATHER RESPECT, AND IF HE HAD A SHIRT ON AT SCHOOL WHICH IM SURE HE DID, HOW DO WE KNOW THE BRUISES DID NOT ORIGINATE AT HOME, IF IN FACT THERE WERE ANY BRUISES.
Posted by: Anonymous Location: Leon on Mar 26, 2008 at 04:03 PM
HELLO PEOPLE...This man is the one at fault. BOMB THREAT...HIT LIST nothing done by Mr. Jones. He endangered lives and did nothing about it. Now he puts his hands on someones child? This is a school that has a lot of family connections. If you or your child makes someone mad, they will pay for it at school in some way. They still hand pick who the favorites are and who is going to be picked on. I do believe we need cameras in the class room. Let everyone see what the kids are acutally taught, or how they are being degraded in some way. Finally, people are speaking out on how they feel since Jones is suspended, they don't have to be scared they are going to lose their jobs for telling the truth.
Posted by: Simon D. Location: Edge, TX on Mar 26, 2008 at 02:06 PM
If the student was truly mature, he wouldn't have disrepected the teacher in the first place that sent him to the principal's office. If the student was truly mature, he wouldn't have initiated a yelling match and walked away without permission from the principal. I agree that respect must be earned but CHILDREN are not equipped with the mental capacity to make that decision that is why they should be taught to treat all authority with respect. Maybe the kid was being treated unfairly, thats not for him to decide. He should have just sat there, listened (no contact would have been made had he not chosen to leave) and - if he truly felt wronged - brought it up with his father after he was at home. All of you taking up for the student have your own axes to grind, I can't believe Jones earned such hatred from just this one incident. Its like you've just waited for something like this to happen so you can pounce on him like vultures.
Posted by: Janice on Mar 26, 2008 at 08:27 AM
To Scott in Austin: "I can see why all these weirdos want to homeschool their kids." Do you have kids, Scott? I do and I have homeschooled them for the past 8 years. What makes me a weirdo? Is it because you don't understand it? Have you ever talked to a homeschool family or are you just speaking from ignorance? My oldest child was in the school system through first grade. I won't trash the school district he was in but it wasn't great and we cared not only about his education but also his well-being. I'm not saying people who put their kids in public school don't--this was just the right thing for my children and my family. If you call my kids weird because they respect adults then the world needs more weirdos in it, I would imagine.
Posted by: Bob Location: Centerville on Mar 26, 2008 at 08:04 AM
Retired Professional Educator said it VERY well. It is hard for kids to show respect for adults when there are so many adults that don't deserve respect. Heck there are teenagers that are more mature than many of today's "adults" and that is sad. You can't be over 40 and act like you are 12 and expect to be respected. Respect is earned and you don't earn respect my getting into a screaming match with teenagers. As the saying goes act your age not your shoe size (which acting his shoe size might be an improvement for Jones)
Posted by: Bill Location: Leon County on Mar 26, 2008 at 04:48 AM
I agree with Wayne. That principal is a bully and a coward. He is not used to kids standing up to him, so when this kid took the high road and walked away from his temper tantrum he assaulted the kid. A former teacher at the school tells me this man is prone to, as she put it, " emotional outbursts". Apparently he loses his cool whenever those around him don't kiss his rear end. Looks like he bit off a bit more than he could chew this time. Thank you Mr. Winn for addressing this very serious matter.
Posted by: Not understanding Location: Jewett on Mar 26, 2008 at 12:02 AM
I keep reading negative comments about how Mr. Winn is conducting himself in this matter. I was not there and did not see what happened, neither did Mr. Winn. Truth be told, he is doing his job with this matter. Something serious was brought to his attention and he is having to let all of this be investigated by proper authorities...That is his job. Don't blame him for the investigation, blame the student and Coach Jones. These two are the ones who got into the yelling match and one grabbed the other. Had the father not gone to Mr. Winn, he would have gone to the sheriffs department anyway after not being able to talk with Coach Jones and Coach Jones and the student would still be investigated.
Posted by: Martha Location: Buffalo on Mar 25, 2008 at 10:47 PM
(Continued) I was very upset with the interview Mr. Winn did with KTBX. I thought he threw Mr. Jones under the bus. As a principal would Mr. Winn have wanted this to happen to him? I seem to remember hearing about his temper. I never saw his name on the internet or in the media. In the local paper tonight it mentioned Centerville Board backing their administrators on a situation with a student. That's a novel idea. Maybe that's what Leon needs to consider. Maybe the board needs to get back to board business. We had hoped to retire in this area but now I don't know. This situation has really made us stop and think about where we want to spend the rest of our lives. Leon used to be a good school with good students who had manners and respect for authority. What will it be like this time next year?
Posted by: Martha Location: Buffalo on Mar 25, 2008 at 10:30 PM
I think it is very sad that many of you would love to tear down a man who has spent his career doing things right and fair and just. You are so quick to voice your opinion when you don't even know the facts. If someone was really interested in Leon ISD or the student they would have handled it in a proper manner and not notified the media. This has been an organized effort from the beginning to desroy a very fine man and hurt his family. Many of you have some sort of ax to grind that has nothing to do with any Jones family member. David has been accused of things he has not done. I think each one of you should examine your own heart and ask "why am I doing this?" Are you just trying to get him fired? I know there are people who are jealous and they will say and do anything to get their way. The boy has bragged to people in the past about how he has gotten in trouble at school. Does that sound like someone who does not have a discipline problem? (continued)
Posted by: Janice Location: Singleton on Mar 25, 2008 at 06:59 PM
To Wayne: I don't believe the child was being "bullied" until he smarted off to an adult, okay? Secondly, to the person that defended this young MAN for his actions because he lost his mother to cancer: I lost a dad to cancer at the age of 13 and my MOTHER would NEVER allow that as an excuse to act out against what she taught me. That's the problem here: Some of you are making excuses for this young MAN's behavior when you SHOULD BE SHOCKED at it.
Posted by: Gary Bundt Location: Buffalo on Mar 25, 2008 at 06:17 PM
I know the boy (well MAN, I guess, since he's 17 and in Texas could be considered an adult) in question recently lost his mother but that is no free pass to act up. There is no excuse for disrespecting the principal's authority. That being said, the principal shouldn't have put his hands on the kid (whether its the shirt or the shoulder). I say suspend Jones without pay for the rest of the school year. That sends a message that he's being punished. But, from everything that has been reported, I don't think this is a firing offense. And to the person who suggested a civil proceeding, remember this would be heard by a Leon County jury and, for the most part, we teach our children to respect authority, I wouldn't give the boy/man or his family a dime, I'd be p.o.'ed they'd wasted our time.
Posted by: scott Location: austin on Mar 25, 2008 at 06:09 PM
I am starting to see why all these weirdos want to home school their kids. School disticts in much more popular places than Jewett have enough trouble attracting people to want to teach. Imagine how hard it is for a school district located in Leon County to get good teachers. This is not to indict this teacher or insult the quality of life in this area. The point I am making is that if I am a bright kid planning a career and I read all this mess I am thinkin anything other than a teaching career. That is reality and it sucks and if somebody can give me some positive feedback I'd sure love to hear it.
Posted by: Retired Professional Educator Location: Freestone County on Mar 25, 2008 at 05:49 PM
I taught in the public schools more years than Carter's has pills. To get respect you have to earn it. You do not earn respect by yelling at children. It is possible to reach even the most unruly children without shouting and screaming. When an adult throws a tantrum he is giving the child permission to do the same. Educators are role models and should behave as such. Someday these children will be leaders and managers. The skills they learn today will shape their management style. Few corporations will tolerate a manager that yells and belittles his subordinates.
Posted by: Ben Location: Bryan on Mar 25, 2008 at 03:02 PM
If Dad and Mom had done their job raising this child he would not have acted in a way to need to be restrained. All any teacher should have to do is say "do I need to call your parents?". I am 58 and it still scares me to think about the consequences.
Posted by: To Lisa B on Mar 25, 2008 at 02:50 PM
You bring up a couple of good points...What did the student do? Walk away from a yelling match that Jones' admits to. What did the boy's dad ask Mr Jones? Nothing because Jones wouldn't meet with them. If Jones were man enough to meet with them and admit he over reacted KBTX wouldn't know anything about it. Instead he refused because they dared to disagree with Mr High and Mighty. David Jones doesn't even know the meaning of the word man.
Posted by: William Location: Bryan on Mar 25, 2008 at 02:48 PM
Spring is in the air. Get the rope. It is open season on teachers. Who will be next? Thanks to stations like KBTX for always bringing us the best in news. I always walk away refreshed when I hear the good reports. I'm sure the idiots out there who hated their teachers appreciate it too.
Posted by: Wayne Location: Buffalo on Mar 25, 2008 at 02:01 PM
If the county and district attorneys do not prosecute this case the parents of this student need to remember that justice can still be served in the civil courts. Look at the OJ Simpson case for example. He was acquitted in criminal court, however a judgement against him was obtained in civil court. It is much easier to obtain a judgement in civil court than it is to obtain a conviction in criminal court. In civil court the burden of proof is much lower and defendents do not have all the rights they have in criminal court. Go talk with a competent capable attorney that is board certified in such issues. Hit this Jones character in the pocketbook. Maybe then other teachers and school administrators will take notice and start behaving like adults.
Posted by: Leon Faculty Location: Leon ISD on Mar 25, 2008 at 01:35 PM
Mr. Jay Winn is a fine leader. How can you fault a man for standing up for what is right even if it is not popular. You will not meet a better man than Jay Winn!! I personally work for Mr. Winn and he is a man that believes in standing up for what is best for ALL the students at Leon ISD.
Posted by: To Lisa B on Mar 25, 2008 at 12:42 PM
When his dad brought him into the principal, Jones would not even give the dad the time of day to discuss the situation. That is why he had to go to Mr. Winn.
Posted by: Lisa B Location: College Station on Mar 25, 2008 at 11:52 AM
What did the student do? Look over the last few years when students come in and go on a shooting rampage. Everyone is afraid to discipline the students. Parents allow them to talk to you any way they see fit and then they come and do the same. Since his dad brought him to the principle did he ask what did my son do? or Look what you did to my son. I don't condone just abusing our youth but before Leon become another school of shooting rampage lets look at the WHOLE picture. Send the message to our unruly youth that this type of behavior will not be tolerated.
Posted by: AT LEON IT MATTERS Location: KIDS SUFFER on Mar 25, 2008 at 10:56 AM
KIDS ARE HUMILITATED BY FACULTY AT THIS SCHOOL QUIT OFTEN IN CLASSES. SOME FACULTY THINGS ITS O.K. TO HUMILIATE CHILDREN. I FEEL LIKE THE SCHOOL AS A WHOLE NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT, NOT JUST THIS STUDENT AND PRINCIPAL. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DEGREE AS A TEACHER DOES'NT MEAN YOU ARE CAPABLE OF TEACHING. DON'T GET WE WRONG THIER ARE GOOD TEACHERS AT THIS SCHOOL. WHEN ALOT OF THE FACULTY ARE RELATED TO EACH OTHER IS HARD GETING ANY THING DONE WITHOUT YOUR CHILD SUFFING CONSEQUENCES. DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT NEPOTISM IS. IF NOT FIND OUT THE DEFINITION AND THIS SCHOOL IS FULL OF IT. PUT CAMERAS IN THE ROOM SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT TEACHERS AND CHILDREN ARE DOING. YOU MIGHT BE SHOCKED. THERE IS PROBABLY MORE UNDER THE RUG THAN ANYONE KNOWS.
Posted by: Local Professional Location: Leon County on Mar 25, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Once again we have some people in positions of authority that have made Leon ISD look silly. We have an ongoing investigation that neither the county or CPS have made a decision on but yet Mr. Winn might as well have brought a body bag to his interview he gave to Channel 3. And speaking as a professional, why would you give an interview representing Leon ISD in a T-shirt and a ball cap instead of a shirt and tie. At least you had the bill of the cap pointing forward. In closing I will tell you once again, Mr. Jones did not bruise this kid. If you really knew Mr. Jones you would know that if he had done wrong he would admit it and take his punishment like a good man would do.
Posted by: No Coward Here Location: Leon County Texas, United states of America on Mar 25, 2008 at 10:51 AM
To: coward... A coward is someone who runs his mouth and then doesen't post their name. So what are you mr trash talker from Houston
Posted by: Joey Location: Franklin, Texas on Mar 25, 2008 at 10:40 AM
I agree that the school should look into the case, but however i have worked Mr. jones in the school setting as a coach, teacher,parent. He only has the best intrest for the student body. He may walk the line, but he does not cross it.
Posted by: Wayne Location: Buffalo on Mar 25, 2008 at 10:25 AM
Any adult, in a position of authority, that would get in a verbal confrontation with a minor is a coward and a bully. This child should be commended for standing up to this bully and not allowing the bully to disrespect him. Always remember chapter 9 of the Texas Penal Code allows for the defense of a person when they are physically assaulted. No minor should allow a teacher, principal or school district employee to bully them.
Posted by: A PARENT Location: LEON CO. on Mar 25, 2008 at 09:32 AM
HEY CHARGES? It's really a swell idea to go ahead and just hang Jones,huh?? you must have some of those children that don't mind or have any respect for you. And it must be really hard for the school board to make any decisions since except for 1 and maybe 2 of them they are all Jay Winn's "YES MEN" and don't do anything that might anger him. So really we're just waiting for him to wait and appropriate amount of time before he decides to fire Mr. Jones and the school board take the credit?? Mr Winn's door may always be open, he may even be doing part of his job, but he's sure not gonna "have your back" and it seems he may be the first to throw you to the wolves.
Posted by: One More Leon ISD Parent Location: Jewett on Mar 25, 2008 at 09:31 AM
I agree with 3rd grade parent. Coach Jones may be innicent, I don't know, was not there. BUT there are a few teachers at Leon ISD who are known to be flat out ugly to the kids, scream, yell and a few even throw temper tantrums, play on the computer during instructional time, and talk on their cell phones during class, they know who they are and should have resigned or been fired a long time ago. Point is, there may not be anything in Coach Jone's file if he is guilty because the school, most of the time does not listen to the parent's concerns. Besides, why say anything because you know your child will be treated worse by the teacher in the end. They aren't worried about anything, they can act how they want. Don't get me wrong, there are many wonderful techers at Leon, but there are a few that to go (a long time ago). Send out surveys, put cameras in the class rooms or just open your ears. Respect can't only be taught at home, give a little and you will get a whole lot in return.
Posted by: leon parent Location: jewett on Mar 25, 2008 at 08:31 AM
i am amazed how so many of u from bryan and college station have such opinions on a situation that u no nothing about nor pertains to u or ur children. do any of u know that this child just lost his mother to cancer. no i doubt it. so while ur all judging him and saying he deserved it u might want to check into the whole story. there are alot of things that pertain to this case that u have no idea about. deserved it!!!! get for real, noone deserves to have anyone put their hands on them. if a man ever grabs my child rest assured, i would be doing the same thing as this boys father. we are all so quick to take sides, but put yourself in the fathers shoes. you can say what you want, but if your a parent then you no that it is our place to protect our kids, not let some man grab and BRUISE them.
Posted by: Charges? on Mar 25, 2008 at 08:10 AM
Should he go to jail for bruising someone after he lost his temper and then lied about what happened? Maybe not. Should he be allowed to return to the school where it happened and the faculty and students know how easy he can snap and do something like this and then lie about it? HECK NO!!! The school board needs to stop waiting on an investigation that has taken WAY too long and do the right thing for the students, teachers, and the entire community and remove this cancer from Leon schools so people can focus on moving past this instead of waiting to see for over a month now. It is time for the school board to take action and show that they care about what is best for the students like Jay Winn does instead of allowing this to be drawn out even longer. They need to prove that they are going to protect the students and staff of Leon ISD.
Posted by: Local Citizen Location: Jewett/Marquez Area on Mar 25, 2008 at 12:40 AM
This child is actually a 17 year old young man. In other words he is not a child. At 17 years old he has no respect for authority. If he were my "child" he would have probably had a bruise on the other shoulder. My "child" would have had it far worse at home since he disrepected his elders at school. But my "child" would have not done anything like this because he would have known better also. He would have know that there would be consequences once he got home and I found out about it. The "child" in question is a 17 year old young man. I do not understand why this has gotten out of control. I would have an issue with Coach Jones if it were a younger child. Most of you know how 17 year olds think they fully grown and can do what they want. What was Jones to do tap him on the shoulder and say please don't leave. "Child" step up to the plate and be a man.
Posted by: Amanda Location: College Station on Mar 25, 2008 at 12:38 AM
Unfortunately for Principal Jones, the integrity of the investigation has been compromised by Superintendent Winn's interviews to the media outlets. Hopefully for the sake of the individuals involved the Leon County DA's office will start serving gag orders before someone says too much. One of the fundamental rights as a citizen of this country is the right to a fair trial - how is that supposed to happen when DURING the investigation witnesses are giving statements to a camera or reporter? Best of luck to you Principal Jones.
Posted by: Former Educator Location: Bryan on Mar 24, 2008 at 11:39 PM
What is wrong w/ parents?! Had this kid not been sent to the office in the first place, this would not have happened, & if I were that kid's parent, his life would be over as he knew it for disrespecting adults, especially at school! Rather than spending his energy on smearing the principal's reputation, the father needs to teach his kid how to respect adults & that actions have consequences. I bet even now there have been no consequences either at home or school for this kid, yet the principal has been suspended. Don't you know the kid is EATING THIS UP thinking to himself: "Look how powerful I am to get this dude in trouble, maybe even fired!" I wouldn't want that kid in my classroom after this fiasco. He's been given the power to talk to any adult as he pleases,& no one can do anything about it. That's the basic tone of schools these days. It's no wonder the quality of education has gone down the toilet. There's no discipline b/c district administrators are scared of pare
Posted by: county observer Location: leon county on Mar 24, 2008 at 11:39 PM
What happened to innocent until proven guilty? It is not right to grab a child. Everyone knows that. You should never engage in an argument with a child either. BUT what are the mitigating circumstances. We are only hearing one side of this issue. I know the child's privacy has to be respected, so this case shouldn't be tried in the media. Let's just wait for the verdict. It appears that Leon ISD and its community are having issues that are bigger than this incident. Stay professional. A superintendent should back the principal and teachers until there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary. This should have never gone to the county attorney. This should have been handled within the school. Mr. Winn has evaluated the student's file. What about Mr. Jones' file? Is there proper documentation to warrant such an investigation? Does this child bruise easily? What exactly did the child do? Give us more facts or make us wait until the case is solved...
Posted by: 3rd Grade Parent Location: Leon on Mar 24, 2008 at 11:02 PM
I agree, these things do happen in athletics, but I heard that coach and his wife who yells at and degrades her elementary students have both resigned. The rules are not the same. More than once complaints were made about the coach and his wife and people are still waiting for her to be reprimanded for her actions. Maybe that's because someone didnt think it was important enough to be dealt with and instead treats the parents complaining like they have the problem. I agree, kids arent respectful anymore, but how can one be respcted while yelling and being sarcastic when a child cant answer a question. Maybe there is a reason why the principals didnt get extended contracts. Has anyone thought of that? Look hard at those in authority positions. Let's stop sweeping problems under the rug and deal with them when they occur. Jay Winn is a great man and doesnt deserve the negative comments he's getting. He is doing HIS job and HIS door is ALWAYS open. Can another man say the same?
Posted by: Susitna Location: C.S. on Mar 24, 2008 at 09:59 PM
It does not matter who knows Jones,if he did what he did that was his choice response at the time. A man is only as srong as his weakest link! Christ or no Christ!
Posted by: Disappointed Location: Bryan on Mar 24, 2008 at 09:56 PM
I am disappointed in KBTX. To allow this to become a name calling board is not a good idea. I hope this will be monitored with a little more taste in the future. (Re: Trash)
Posted by: Pat Location: Concord on Mar 24, 2008 at 09:53 PM
"The school board is waiting to see what, if anything, the County Attorney does with the case. At that point, it will decide what to do next." It sounds to me like the community of "Leon" (Jewett & Marquez mostly, right?) already have tried and convicted Jones why wait for the official word? And, if the official investigation clears Jones, will they be happy with him keeping his position? After all, the elected school board is supposed to be a representative of the people since they are elected officials. How will the school board have a leg to stand on if Jones is cleared? And to the person who said 'interview people who know Jones,' get real! Most of these people wouldn't want their TRUE FACE shown on TV they'd rather just be two faced and hide behind pseudonyms like the cowards they are.
Posted by: A HS student's parent Location: Leon Co. on Mar 24, 2008 at 09:35 PM
I'd like to know why this situation has got so much attention when things worse than this happen in the Leon ISD atheletic department on a daily basis. The boys in athletics are guarnteed to be yelled at, pushed around and treated in a degrading manner just to get them to be "better players" and everyone seems to think it is O.K. and "just the way it is". How many football games do you see a coach grab a kid by the facemask and shake the fire out of him and scream in his face? It is allowed and excepted! Why do the rules not apply to them? They too are employees of Leon ISD and should be made to follow rules. The only difference I see is that most of the atheletes have respect for their coaches and would have never walked away from an authority. That says something good for the students, not for the behavior of the Coaches!! Wake up Leon and make everyone abide by the SAME RULES, not just the people that won't kiss up!!
Posted by: Kay Location: Robertson Co on Mar 24, 2008 at 07:25 PM
Where is the spot to pick He__ No. If my daughter ever walks away from a teacher because he/she wasn't listening to her I HOPE they grab her by at least her shoulder. That is blatant disrespect and a prime example of the lack of character in our children today. This young man may not have been wrong in the beginning but he dang sure was when he turned his back on a teacher/adult that was addressing him.
Posted by: john Location: College Station on Mar 24, 2008 at 05:13 PM
To those who don't leave their names; I was once waiting outside an A&M prof's office when a fish (who had bragged to fellow students that he didn't need to do any homework because his dad was faculty) began screaming at the professor that if he didn't change his grade, he was going to get his stupid tokus fired (not those exact words, but you probably get the drift) although I never could hear any of what the prof replied through a 2 or 3 minute back and forth. And while I didn't hide behind the copier, I did decide to see Dr A later(didn't get fired BTW).. I qualify that as a loud verbal argument although only one voice was raised. And the fact that Jones is in trouble just shows that he cares a whole lot more for the student's future than the ungrateful kid cares about his. And do you really think that the school system will be better when ALL students know that they can scream at the teachers, disrupt classes, and walk away from anything they dont like with no consequences.
Posted by: Trash Location: Houston, Texas on Mar 24, 2008 at 04:59 PM
This article is trash. Jay Winn is a coward.
Posted by: Susitna Location: C.S. on Mar 24, 2008 at 04:45 PM
I am glad this man does not have anything to do with my child!
Posted by: J. D. Location: Richter on Mar 24, 2008 at 04:33 PM
I have known Coach Jones for 14 years: we have worked together and worshiped together. David is a gentle man and a fair man who answers to a higher authority, Jesus Christ. I do not believe for a second that David laid his hand on a child to cause harm. That, my friend, is not in David's character, he has stronger ethics than that. I think what is happening here is that someone is attempting to ruin David's reputation. Ask your news team to interview people who actually know David, there are alot of us around. I myself have been thrown to the wolves by the same Superintendent. What a shame.
Posted by: Another conerened Educator Location: Leon County on Mar 24, 2008 at 04:16 PM
To the other concerned educator. You said it. You heard Mr Jones side, and only his side. There is another side you know!!! I'm sure Mr Winn did his investigation. He is probably just waiting on the other investigations so he has all of the other "professionals" view on the issue. I'm sure he will make the right decision when that time comes.
Posted by: Bekah on Mar 24, 2008 at 04:10 PM
If my child ever walks away froma teacher or principal in a disrespectful manner, I hope that person insists on respect. We don't know where the bruise came from. If the kid would have behaved, he wouldn't have ended up in this situation.
Posted by: Donna Location: Marquez on Mar 24, 2008 at 03:59 PM
As Mr. Donald Trump would say David Jones YOUR FIRED
Posted by: an educator Location: Madison County on Mar 24, 2008 at 03:36 PM
I've read comments from both sides and heard Winn interviewed on TV. Of the four statements, I'm guessing that the principal's statement was the one that didn't match the other three. No doubt the kid needed his butt busted for being distrespectful. I also doubt the kid got much of a bruise from being grabbed by the shoulder. The principal was wrong for grabbing this brat but it is also wrong to consider firing the principal over this mess. The parents should be disciplined for not properly raising their son. Winn is doing what most superintendents do.......straddle the fence. Most administratros possess little guts when dealing with situations like this. If a teacher wants to know if they have the support of the administration, get involved in a situation like this. Most of the time you will be hung out to dry because the administration wants to cover it's own butt.
Posted by: A concerned educator Location: Leon County on Mar 24, 2008 at 03:08 PM
I know David Jones and have actually heard his side of the story. He is a fair, unbaised principal that truly has the best interests of all students. Perhaps, Mr. Winn should have been supporting his principal and conducting his own investigation before he threw Mr. Jones to the proverbial wolves. I think the "shame on you" award goes to Mr. Winn and those who have rushed to judgment.
Posted by: To Leon Observer on Mar 24, 2008 at 02:50 PM
The last time I checked Mr. Winn was the Superintendent (boss of the school) and he probably has the right to throw a snowball or pick up trash if he wants to. He is not trying to be a dictator like Jones was. Jones is too proud and to good to pick up anybody elses trash. I think his whole family is that way.
Posted by: To John on Mar 24, 2008 at 02:42 PM
In the article is says,"Jones admitted to Winn that he and the student got into a loud, verbal argument." That statement proves that Jones was one of the ones screaming. The temper tantrum looks as if it is going to follow Jones the rest of his life and not the student.
Posted by: Leon Observer Location: Leon on Mar 24, 2008 at 02:24 PM
What a great man Mr. Winn is, he has it ALL under control! He picks the students trash up for them at lunch, he throws snowballs at them inside the school. Who would'nt want someone like him in controll! He sets such a great example for the kids, or is he taking advantage of a situation? Why was'nt he picking up trash for the kids two months ago? By the way, what if someone had gotten hurt during his snowball tossing inside the school?? Some people can see right through you!
Posted by: Susie Location: Bryan on Mar 24, 2008 at 02:04 PM
Maybe the bruise is from playing football the same day or the day before. I think its wrong to accuse the teacher/principal of such things, but .. in the future lets remember to leave doors open when with a child, no matter the age.
Posted by: bk Location: Bryan on Mar 24, 2008 at 01:58 PM
Have any of you ever been to Bryan High or any of the Middle schools. These kids are terrible and talk to teachers and aids like dogs! They only do this because they know that they can get away with it, because if they are told anything their parents come to the school and throw a fit worse than the kids do. If you ask me the parents need to disciple their kids at home and teach them some manners. As a mother of a high school student, I know that if my child acted distrustful to a teacher and raised his voice, even if he is in the right in the situation, he would be made to apologize to them. I don’t believe in abuse, but it is very frustrating to be yelled daily by disrespectful students. The Principle was in the wrong if he did grab the child, but the student should have not acted like that! Both should be disciplined but this should not rein the life of either one!
Posted by: john Location: College Station on Mar 24, 2008 at 01:10 PM
"A true professional educator sets an example for other employees and students to follow and getting into a verbal screaming match that caused a teacher to hide behind a copy machine isn't an example I want my children to follow." Please note that no one sait that the PRINCIPAL was the one screaming; and if it was the student (highly likely since he had just been asked/told to see the principal by a teacher that he allegedly insulted (probably in a loud and disrespectful voice), what would your hypothetical "professional educator" do instead? Very quietly tell the kid "OK no problem calling everyone you hate @#$$%^&^%%$@@#$%$s, you're opinion is much more important than all the other students' education... or I guess he COULD have called the cops; but maybe he figured that the handcuffs leave an even wourse bruise, and the criminal record that attaches might not be sealed at 18, depending on his age. If so, that one temper tantrum could follow this kid for the REST OF HIS LIFE.
Posted by: Grace Location: Singleton on Mar 24, 2008 at 12:36 PM
I truly expected to see a major consensus here posting condemnatory remarks about the principal in this situation. While it is unfortunate that the matter escalated to the point it did and the student got a little bruise, it is also very sad that the matter escalated at all. This kid should have obeyed, plain and simple. It is a sad state in our schools today when kids can disrespect authority figures and not be properly punished for it. When I enrolled my child in kindergarten, I signed the paper for capital punishment (spankings). If he deserves it, he gets it the same as home. Parents need to teach their kids RESPECT for everyone! I took my four year old to the doctor one day and the doctor asked him a question. My son responded "yes." I corrected him and told him to say "yessir." The doctor said "Oh, Mom, kids don't say that anymore." I was quick to say "Maybe not, but MINE will." He's 15 now and I don't have to remind him anymore.
Posted by: Susitna Location: C.S. on Mar 24, 2008 at 12:36 PM
The child was bruised! There is absolutely no excuse for laying a finger on this student,because it is very, very immature for a grown man to act in a threatening manner agianst a child! Shame on Him!
Posted by: Faculty Location: Leon School on Mar 24, 2008 at 12:00 PM
I find it rather interesting that since Jones has been on administrative leave, there have been no disciplinary problems among the students at all. The disciplinary problems have been among the teachers.
Posted by: BILL Location: HUNTSVILLE on Mar 24, 2008 at 11:39 AM
WHY NOT GO BACK TO THE PADDLE????? THESE BRATS NEED DISCIPLINE THE WORST WAY. A FEW WHACKS LONG AGO PROBABLY KEPT ME FROM MAKING LICENSE PLATES. THINK ABOUT IT.
Posted by: To good ol days on Mar 24, 2008 at 11:37 AM
There is a HUGE difference between disipline and bruises. A true professional educator sets an example for other employees and students to follow and getting into a verbal screaming match that caused a teacher to hide behind a copy machine isn't an example I want my children to follow.
Posted by: B Location: college station on Mar 24, 2008 at 10:34 AM
It's just a bruise! If he can't handle that then he needs to be put in a bubble. The kid probably needed it. A teacher is an authority figure and needs to be listened to. I just think that teachers are getting in trouble because the kids don't have any respect for anybody!
Posted by: john Location: College Station on Mar 24, 2008 at 09:32 AM
"To walk away from a confrontation is a choice to stop further escalation." which is exactly what every speeder who runs from the cops says...somehow I don't think that it works that way when the person walking away is in the process of being disciplined by an authority.
Posted by: D. Location: College Station on Mar 24, 2008 at 09:20 AM
Let's focus on what the STUDENT did! The student was disrespectful to a teacher and the principal, so the principal had every right to grab the student. In fact, the principal should have given the students a couple of swats, and then suspended the kid for a week. Then, the kid would never have been a discipline problem ever again!
Posted by: Paul Location: Fairfield on Mar 24, 2008 at 09:07 AM
Unless the District has a specific policy prohibiting physical contact, the principal has the right and legal authority to physically restrain a student when necessary.
Posted by: shieana Location: leon highskewl on Mar 24, 2008 at 09:01 AM
i hate this skewl they dnt tecjh u nuttin c i cnt even spell
Posted by: Suzan Location: College Station on Mar 24, 2008 at 08:40 AM
Being a parent of two children ages 13, 20 and also having taught school Houston, this story is absurd. Kids today have no respect for authority, and should not be talking back or aruguing with school staff or any adult for that matter. I truly believe our school systems need reform, so they can gain back the authority and respect the they need to teach children a well rounded education. A word to parents, love and protect your children, but know they are capable of anything when not under your watchful eye. A good parent never say's "not my child".
Posted by: good ol days on Mar 24, 2008 at 07:46 AM
that's what's wrong with kids today no dicipline
Posted by: mjh Location: Bryan on Mar 24, 2008 at 06:20 AM
To walk away from a confrontation is a choice to stop further escalation. To prevent departure by physical abuse is not appropriate. Was the message delivery a request or a demand?
Posted by: John Location: College Station on Mar 24, 2008 at 05:19 AM
I know I'm prejudging the situation, but I'd say based on Winns behavior that there's a lot of fault on both sides; since he's very careful to NOT to say which statement is inconsistent (ie whether the witnesses agreed with the student or the Principal), the principal probably DID stop the student from walking out after flipping him the bird. HOWEVER, physical restraint as a last resort is or should be an option to maintain some discipline over an out of control student. And a parent who would pursue criminal charges after his son verbally assaulted a teacher and the principal also needs a talking to...
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