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Roommate Limits In CS Not In the Plans Save Email Print
Posted: 10:00 PM Mar 27, 2008
Last Updated: 9:55 PM Mar 28, 2008
Reporter: Derek Shore
Email Address: shore@kbtx.com

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It has been a long time battle between homeowners and students. Many homeowners wanting to rid their neighborhoods of nuisance rental properties by limiting the amount of people that may live in a rented home.

In turn this would cut back on parking problems and loud parties.

But tonight the city rolled out a plan to combat the problems, and limiting the amount of unrelated people in a home was conspicuously absent, and some of those annoyed homeowners weren't happy.

"We simply cannot support it from a single family standpoint, all four people in the house and you have to be prepared to regress it or in my humble, private opinion you will fail," a concerned homeowner said.

But council members just didn't see the benefit of limiting unrelated tenants.

Councilman John Crompton said, "The situation is complex. It isn't just about the number of people in the home, its the behavior of the people in the home also."

Which in turn gave students a sigh of relief.

"You're gonna be able to keep your affordable housing up to four residents to a home, more than two unrelated just like we've been doing," Tyler Koch, an A&M Student Senate Speaker, said. " We did our jobs. We preserved neighborhood integrity without roommate limitations."

"They thought things through and hopefully they're gonna start thinking about students more," Brian Alg, a former A&M student, said.

A rental relief for thousands of students.

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Posted by: jason Location: College Station on Apr 28, 2008 at 08:57 PM
I sit at an interesting crossroads in this debate. I am both a student, permanent resident, and small business owner, therefore I feel that I can safely comment without being ignored by either side. I agree that loud 100 person keg parties in a family neighborhood, or any neighborhood are meticulous. Saying that its the fault of all college students is just flat wrong. First, most students wouldn't even dare have that many people over, and secondly, the high school students are equally guilty. Trust me, I went to enough of them in high school to know. People are screaming about property value in this argument which is also ridiculous. BCS enjoys one of the best markets in the country because students have found ways to live with more people in a house, so they can afford to pay more, and the landlords can charge more. That means more money brought into the BCS economy.

Posted by: Nikki Location: Aggieland on Apr 1, 2008 at 06:55 PM
Limiting the household adults was simply too much government interference for what is a very isolated problem. I'm glad that the CS council decided not to limit the roommates in any residence. I've known tons of rentals with lots of students that didn't cause problems with their neighbors. I've also known apartments with just one or two guys that caused tons of problems. I've met plenty of RELATED adults that eventually were kicked out because they couldn't keep their business inside. Limiting roommates wasn't going to solve the "party house" dilemma anyway.

Posted by: Right!!!! Location: Bryan on Apr 1, 2008 at 10:49 AM
Maybe College Station would consider giving all the homeowners in neighborhoods with college students living in them a huge tax cut. Right!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ha Location: college station on Mar 31, 2008 at 12:21 PM
while you guys are at ruining my education, why don't you throw everyone out of this town that doesnt fit "your" social standards....

Posted by: cassie Location: converse,tx on Mar 29, 2008 at 10:12 AM
i'd like to know where the students morals are.my mom's house has had students living there for YEARS.a few years back,i was outside with my little sisters(who were 5 and 2 at the time)and there was a party outside next door.then a fight breaks out about which girl gives a better BJ than the other!!!!!who wants their kids listening to that crap?much less living by it.b-cs is NOT all about you money hungry,daddy's girl/mama's girl,self righteous,irresponsible students.

Posted by: HOME OWNER Location: COLLEGE STATION on Mar 28, 2008 at 10:48 PM
After reading these comments, I would say that half of these people do not even belong in college. They should go back to elem. and learn grammar as well as spelling. Face it! Students are immature and irresponsible. If they were not, we would not have to endure the problems we are currently having. A&M is not the only game in town. But, the city council seems to think so. It is time to spend our money elsewhere (Bryan) and let these great students support the city. Our neighborhood is full of these inconsiderate kids and their fancy trucks and cars. Let them all move to Hearne & Navasota so we can gain our quality of life back. This town is going downhill and we can thank the city officials for allowing it to happen. Perhaps this should be put on the ballet for permanent residents to vote on.

Posted by: Anna Location: Black on Mar 28, 2008 at 05:46 PM
I am so sick of hearing that this town wouldn't be anything without the students. Has it occurred to anyone that without the rest of the town, the students wouldn't be here? Who would serve them their food? Who would sell them clothes? Who would educate them? Who would service their Range Rovers? Who would treat them when they are ill or injured? I have come across a lot of students in my neighborhood and nearby neighborhoods (both with restrictions on the number of unrelated occupants - which apparently is difficult for the HOAs to enforce) who have the opinion that they are entitled to live wherever they want because they are students. This sense of entitlement that so many of these kids have is really the problem. If they choose to rent/buy in a family neighborhood, then they should respect the families in their neighborhood. We only have a handful of students in our neighborhood, and let me assure you, they give the rest of the students a bad name by acting like they own BCS

Posted by: Anonymous on Mar 28, 2008 at 04:50 PM
Maybe the council should try living amidst students and they would change their minds

Posted by: tweety Location: bryan on Mar 28, 2008 at 04:37 PM
It shouldnt matter who stays with you, aint no one paying your bills but you so it shouldnt be no ones bussiness who lives with you.

Posted by: Marilyn Location: College Station on Mar 28, 2008 at 01:51 PM
I'd be interested to know if Mr. Crumpton,who appears to be the main supporter of no change in roommate housing in neighborhood subdivisions, faces similar struggles with student autombiles linning both sides of his neighborhood street on mornings, evening and weekends or is his neighborhood one whose subdivision rules have their own set of standards, standards that are more restrictive and not reflected within the CS city limits?

Posted by: Teri Location: Bryan on Mar 28, 2008 at 01:41 PM
The problem with limiting is the high rental rates. In order for middle class families to afford the rents charged in CS - the kids are having to share housing! It is not fair for the few students that cause the neighborhood problems - that their actions affect all the other good kids going to school! In reality there are more good students than bad! As long as the students keep the property in good condition - it should not matter how many live in the house. Would the owner be able to charge as much rent if the property is leased to a single family household? Probably not - gives them the excuse to charge more!

Posted by: FmrStdnt Location: B/CS on Mar 28, 2008 at 11:32 AM
What I think many people fail to realize is that this town wouldn't be ANYTHING without the students. I've pretty much graduated and I will have to share housing to keep my living expenses down. I think the bigger problem here is code enforcement. If your neighbors are loud then call the police. If they don't mow the lawn or there is trash everywhere then report them and have them cited. Roommate bans amount to discrimination against all college students when only some of them are the problem.

Posted by: may Location: madisonville on Mar 28, 2008 at 11:26 AM
why do someone who pay their on bills need someone telling them how many people to have in their own home who ever asked this question need their behind kicked.

Posted by: Serena Location: College Station on Mar 28, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Despite poplar belief there is more to the BCS area than the University. Having restrictions on the number of unrelated people living in a home is not going to cause students to leave A@M. The only reason landlords don't want this change is due to the new trend in charging per room in order to make more off the students, do the students move in more friends to make ends meet and very seldom do the landlords know how many are really living in the home. Until the Cities take steps to actually enforce the codes already in tack and start holding the landlords and the tenants responsible for their own actions this problem will never end

Posted by: Eric Location: College Station on Mar 28, 2008 at 11:09 AM
I am not a student, I have 2 kids, I live in Edelweiss Gartens and have students surrounding me on all sides, 3 and 4 to a house. Aside from the volume of vehicles (which are mostly kept in the driveways), they are not a bother at all and have made good neighbors. The street is quiet, and the occasional, rare, party is generally kept in the house. I have no qualms about students living in the community; after all, it is because of the students and the University that our local economy is so healthy and strong! If you want to live somewhere else quieter, feel free to move to Detroit - I hear there are lots of available houses there and dwindling traffic problems!

Posted by: Heath Location: College Station on Mar 28, 2008 at 11:02 AM
News flash for the first poster...Read the article from a few days ago about what the university brings to the local economy. without the university here, the city of CS would be about as thriving as the city of snook. If you don't like College Station anymore, it is your right to voice that opinion by moving out. And another kbtx article recently described the housing market and property values in college station as not following the national trend of decreasing.

Posted by: John Location: College Station on Mar 28, 2008 at 10:04 AM
To Christine; I agree with earlier comments that it isn't the number or releationship of the people involved, it IS the behaviour; A few doors down from me in one direction is an old retired guy who "collects" what he feels are "classic" cars ie half a dozen 70s and 80s junkers that he putters around with enough to move them when the city tries to tag them as derelicts. And across my back fence, there's a family of 4 with two high school kids who have some parties that would put Animal House to shame when their parents are out of town or just out of pocket (although they HAVE been a bit more discrete since I got a few of them tagged for MIP last December, but they still like to jam till midnight or so a couple of times per month). And neither of those problems will go away if CS tries to ban unrelated renters; it's going to take adults who act like adults.

Posted by: Shannon Location: College Station on Mar 28, 2008 at 09:03 AM
"Tyler Koch, an A&M Student Senate Speaker, said. 'We did our jobs. We preserved neighborhood integrity without roommate limitations'." Exactly what does Tyler Koch think [they] did to preserve neighborhood integrity by winning the roommate limitations vote? Students won. Homeowners lost.

Posted by: whatever on Mar 28, 2008 at 09:02 AM
So just because you city folk don't want them you think they belong in the country ? In my opinion you all should get over it. They see $$$ signs,who cares what others think.

Posted by: bill Location: college station on Mar 28, 2008 at 08:46 AM
It would have been interesting to see what the council plan would require. I don't know whether to be upset or not.

Posted by: Christine Location: College Station on Mar 28, 2008 at 08:38 AM
I do not agree with this decision. There definitely needs to be a limit on the amount of folks who share a home. Even if their behavior is good and they take care of the home (which in many cases this does not happen), you still have multiple vehicles, traffic, parking, and noise issues. For students who complain that housing would not be affordable this way, what happened to apartment and condo living? A student does not have to have a 3 bedroom, 2 bath home in a neighborhood to excel in school! When I went to college, this was not an issue. My husband is an Aggie who rented a small 2 bedroom, 1 bath home in the country during his years here and did just fine. He had one roommate. Why do students feel they need big, recently built homes in family neighborhoods?

Posted by: Donna Location: Bryan on Mar 28, 2008 at 07:51 AM
I don't think it's anyone's business whether you are related or not. Sharing expenses has become the necessary way to live now with our failing economy. Sharing rent/utilities, etc. puts more money in your pocket for gas, groceries and a small amount of pleasure to maintain sanity. I think as long as rent is paid and property is not being destroyed, your kinship should have no relevance on your situation.

Posted by: kay Location: college station on Mar 28, 2008 at 06:40 AM
The number of unrelated people isn't the problem.....the behavior of people is.....Students need to recognize they have responsibilities when they live in a typical family setting.

Posted by: john Location: College Station on Mar 28, 2008 at 06:29 AM
<"We simply cannot support it from a single family standpoint, all 4 people in the house and you have to be prepared to regress it or in my humble, private opinion you will fail," a concerned homeowner said.> Got news for you, fella; Most 3 bedroom houses are going to have 3 or more people living in them; and that means pretty much the same problems whether or not the folks are related.

Posted by: CS Location: College Station on Mar 27, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Why am I not surprised? The city has been supporting A&M and ignoring the permanent residents and their situation for years and years. Property values, neighborhood integrity, quality of life, good place to raise children--not in College Station, Texas. It is time to move out of a city that no longer supports the permanent residents.

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