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Madisonville Cowboy Cross Controversy Save Email Print
Posted: 10:18 PM Apr 27, 2008
Last Updated: 12:38 PM Apr 28, 2008
Reporter: Ashlea Sigman
Email Address: Sigman@kbtx.com

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Mike and Margie Stockman like to decorate their yard.

"If its Mother's Day, Father's day, Easter, at Christmas time we put the manger out front," said Mike.

"In the spring I'll put out spring flowers," said Margie.

"Flag day, we surround this area with flags. Every holiday we do something, so this is a main part of our decorating, this section of the yard," said Mike.

The Stockmans live next to Highway 21. Even though the area they like to decorate is inside their circle drive, the land is part of the state's right-of-way.

On Friday, TXDOT notified the Stockmans that they had to take down everything they put up on the right-of-way. Including a cowboy kneeling at a cross.

"He told me personally I have to take the cross down and I cannot put my nativity scene back up. I cannot put anything on his highway," said Mike.

"I said, you know, that piece of property belonged to Jesus longer than you've had it," said Mike.

The Stockmans have lived in their home for five years.

"We've been putting stuff out here for five years. The entire five years we've lived here," said Mike.

The pair says recently, the same TXDOT employee has been going out of his way, to keep them in line. They say he's even threatened to ticket them when part of a car in their driveway hung out over the right-of-way.

"We're in another territory when he tells me to take Jesus out of my front yard. I get a little offended," said Mike.

In the end, the couple says they will take the silhouette down.

"I will take it down Monday. But I'd like to be able to put it back up," said Mike.

Stockman is a municipal judge in another town. He says he hears this type of case, a class C misdemeanor, in his courtroom.

A fine for class C misdemeanor can be to $500.

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Posted by: marilyn Location: brenham,tx on May 25, 2008 at 05:11 PM
This is getting ridiculous. I think this is one of the most beautiful religous signs there is. What does this have to do with txdot. They need to quit taking so many coffee breaks and start earning their money. Too much time to get stupid.

Posted by: Bubba Location: Bryan on May 16, 2008 at 07:13 AM
Can't say that I like texdot, but that said, get rid of the lawn art or move it. America has freedom to practice religion, any and all religions, not just one of the too numerous to mention Christian religions. Personally I look at this as Christian marketing and try to turn a blind eye even though it reflects badly on all of us. Heaven points are not awarded on the basis of marketing and conversions. Keep your religion close to your heart and in your mind where it should be, not in your front yard.

Posted by: Linda Location: Kansas on May 14, 2008 at 04:11 PM
I have driven from Kansas to Louisiana through the State of Texas many times during the last 30 years. I am very proud to say that I see this lovely combination of of cowboy, horse, and cross in numerous yards all along the drive. It warms my heart to know that a lot of folks in the USA are respectful of the cross. I want this display.

Posted by: Christian Mom Location: Leon County on May 2, 2008 at 10:29 AM
It seems to me that TXDOT went out of their way to have this beautiful display removed and that we folks who enjoy it should go out of our way to contact TXDOT and make our views of this department known to administration. I have already emailed http:/www.dot.state.tx.us. The address is 125 East 11th Street, Austin, Texas 78701 & #512-463-0283. If we don't let them know how we feel about this, they may believe we all agree with this unfortunate man or his supervisor in Bryan. Our hard earned tax dollars pay their salaries. There are good christian people everywhere and I'm sure there are quite a few who are employees of TXDOT. It is such a shame that a few "bad apples" can do so much harm. TXDOT should get busy working on our roads and clearing ROW's that truly ARE hazardous. It is important that we pray for these people because they obviously need our prayers and our Lord. We can all benefit from the continuance of this expression of faith. God Bless You All.

Posted by: Concerned Location: Caldwell on May 1, 2008 at 11:34 AM
I understand it is the law and we have to abide by the law. My question is why "this scene in this yard". I see items in the state right of way all the time in communities, and items have been there for months or years. Why has "strict enforcement" NOW playing occuring. I applaud the family for being so compliant but I do sympathize with their frustration.

Posted by: gary Location: anderson on May 1, 2008 at 09:33 AM
If that is txdot's right of way then they should cut,eadge,water and fertilize the yard or leave him alone

Posted by: ginny Location: cove on Apr 30, 2008 at 06:38 PM
I don't live in that area but what i want to know is why are ALL the cross's still up all over the USA at the site where someone has died? i do not object to this but whats the difference? GOD BLESS AMERICA

Posted by: Glad I don't live there anymore on Apr 30, 2008 at 12:38 PM
This is exactly the type of small town mindedness that made me leave Madisonville and never ever want to come back! A law is a law. Jesus said to give to Ceaser what is Ceaser's. The TxDOT employee is just enforcing what he is paid to enforce. I would think a judge would be able to see this. I think anyone who appears before him should base a defense on Christianity. "I am sorry I robbed that family twice, but you know.... Jesus said to turn the other cheek." Ludicrious, huh? This is just a clear example of throwing the true issue (failure to follow the law) under the bus and hiding behind a religious symbol. I happen to know for a fact that the employee is a Christian who would never do anything to interfer with the sharing of Jesus with anyone. No one ever said to remove it...... MOVE IT!

Posted by: Anonymous on Apr 30, 2008 at 11:54 AM
None of you people seem to be seeing the point of this whole situation here. The man has a job to do just like all of us he did what he was told so he wouldnt get fired. Some of you "so called CHRISTIANS" need to re-evaluate what you have said. One, it talks in the Bible that it is a sin to judge people and most of you are doing do when you dont even know the whole situstion. Also, yall are bring Jesus Christ into an issue that he shouldnt be brought into. The man was doing his job and just as they said this has nothing to do with the cross it has to deal with the liability issues when someone hits the cross. I know that if my child had a wreck inviolving that cross I would be the first to sue this man. Plus, this man is a judge and knows the rules regarding state property as he mentioned in the story. it sounds like to me that he jsut wanted to stir things up. This is all a big joke how something so small can blow up into a huge controversy.

Posted by: Christian woman Location: Madisonville on Apr 30, 2008 at 09:30 AM
As I drove by the Stockmans I saw the new location of the Cross. It is much more of an impact where it is now. Why didn't he do that in the first place instead of causing such a fuss. I guess that's just good old Mike, stirring something up.

Posted by: Sue Location: Madisonville on Apr 29, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Bottom line--move the yard art back onto your property. It is the law and as a Judge, you should have known this already. It is silly to have all this negativity within the city and the area. We have all enjoyed the Stockman's yard and decorations for years. Hopefully, we will be allowed to do so for years to come--in his yard not in the right-of-way. I hope there will be this much interest shown in the upcoming city election as in this yard art incident.

Posted by: darla sanders Location: northzulch on Apr 29, 2008 at 10:50 PM
i think they should be able to leave the praying cowboy up it is very outgoing to people i think someone should start a petition so they can put the praying cowboy back up. i will be the frist to sign it.

Posted by: Anonymous on Apr 29, 2008 at 10:33 PM
I have seen a lot of election sighs in the right of way. Any action on it TXDOT?

Posted by: joni Location: bryan on Apr 29, 2008 at 10:21 PM
i think this is total wrong i thank maybe we should start doing something about the loud music comming from cars when you pull up to red light all you can hear is words that make you turn red and when your 5year old grandson ask why are they saying all those bad words that is what they need to work on and leave the stockmans alone they have the right ideal

Posted by: pat Location: madisonville on Apr 29, 2008 at 07:26 PM
i have seen this yard and i totally agree that they should not have to take the yard decorations down .the stockmans have mantained the right of way for five years .i feel like that txdot should have nothing to say about the decorations only if the state has to have the right of way. it is to understanding that a right of way is only there for the state if they need to put in utilties and or for emergcy use also.i do agree that the txdot has over stepped their boundries.

Posted by: Just Me on Apr 29, 2008 at 04:18 PM
This is not about religion or freedom of speech, etc. This is about the fact that the decorations are not on the owners property. Move the stupid decorations to your own property. You can do whatever you want, AS LONG IT'S ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY!

Posted by: What? Location: Bryan on Apr 29, 2008 at 03:43 PM
This guy is a judge? He should know better.

Posted by: Christian woman Location: Madisonville on Apr 29, 2008 at 02:22 PM
This is not God vs. TXDOT. This is Stockman wanting attention. TXDOT did not tell him to remove the cross, just move it off of the right of way. What would Jesus do? Move the Cross to a different location and obey the law and get on with business. Mr. Stockman just can't help stirring up trouble.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Anonymous on Apr 29, 2008 at 01:27 PM
If the Stockmans merely move their decorations off TXDOT property (to their own front yard), it might not end this episode. TXDOT does not have to honor the Stockmans' property line! There are obscure laws whereby the all-powerful TXDOT can regulate items designed "to be seen" from one of their highways. It sounds ridiculous, but this is not necessarily over yet. Refer to Texas Civil Statutes, Chapter 21 Sec. 21.146. All hail the power of TXDOT.

Posted by: Teri Location: Bryan on Apr 29, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Why not put them up in your front yard - No one can tell you what to do there. As christians we are told to obey - There is a reason the property has an easement.

Posted by: bmw on Apr 29, 2008 at 12:22 PM
just move the right of way

Posted by: ANONYMOUS Location: MADISONVILLE on Apr 29, 2008 at 11:41 AM
I HAVE LIVED IN MADISONVILLE MY WHOLE LIFE, AND I GO BY THIS HOME AT LEAST ONCE A DAY. I AM GOING TO HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE OTHERS THAT STATED, THESE DECORATIONS DOES NO HARM. THEY ARE NO WHERE NEAR IN HARMS WAY. MAYBE TXDOT IS MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE LAWSUITS, DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SUED DUE TO NO SIGNS DUE TO WATER OVER THE ROAD, CAUSING INDIVIDUALS DEATH, AND LOOSE GRAVEL ON THE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY WITH NO SIGNS ALSO CAUSING DEATH. NO, TXDOT DOES NOT ALWAYS DO WHAT THEY NEED TO BE DOING. SO, THIS IS VERY FRIVOLOUS, AND THEY JUST NEED TO FOCUS ON SOME REAL ISSUES AND NOT THESE DECORATIONS. THEY HAVE NOT EVER HURT ANYTHING IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS WHAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT THEY WILL NOW?

Posted by: John Location: UK on Apr 29, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Miserable bugger ! We have people like that, we call them the Labour party. Carry on the good work Mike old son !

Posted by: J Location: Grimes County on Apr 29, 2008 at 09:39 AM
Mr. Stockman, you did the right thing by removing the cross. We are not good Christian witnesses if we don't follow the laws of this country. For instance, I'm not happy about all the taxes I have to pay but Jesus instructed us to pay our debtors...I would have been upset had they told me to remove my cross but there is another way to still display it. Is there any way you could put it on the border of your property without causing TXDOT grief or whatever it is they're feeling? I, too, am a Christian. I never had the pleasure of seeing your yard but I'm sure I would have enjoyed it. Keep the faith and do what's right. God will honor that.

Posted by: SavedByGrace Location: College Station on Apr 29, 2008 at 09:11 AM
The bible also tells us to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient to them. That seems to get muddled in these discussions of religious rights. If the property is in the states right-of-way, move the scenery back a bit. It amazes me that Christian men and women can get on here and write such hateful, disrepectful posts. You'd be better off getting your heart right with God than being disrespectful, and sometimes downright hateful, to authorities and others. WWJD?

Posted by: darlene on Apr 29, 2008 at 08:52 AM
I am so happy to see the cross back up. I enjoy seeing it there every morning when i pass by. These days Christians have to stick together.

Posted by: Dennis Location: Somerville on Apr 29, 2008 at 07:24 AM
Unfortunately, TXDOT is sending a warning to us ALL through the Stockman episode. The reminder is that we should shut up and be meek. It isn't about state property versus private property, because TXDOT can take the Stockmans' home and our homes if they want. This is about a state worker 'zeroing in' on a family to remind us of TXDOT's power. TXDOT couldn't have cared less about that display on the right-of-way until it felt like its power was being questioned. If TXDOT is allowed to keep bowling over Texans, it will become bolder and start taking away our private property and giving it to away foreign countries to create giant corridors without on-ramps nearby, etc. etc. etc. If we don't object to the Stockmans' treatment, WE WILL BE NEXT!

Posted by: kellie Location: madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 10:37 PM
id TXDOT is so worried about a cowboy an cross will they need to stop worring about it an worry more about there roads. i have drove on some of there roads that need alot more repairs than taking down a cowboy an cross, an they need to start mowing the sides of the roads so deers can be seem before it jumps out on them an cause an accident, so TXDOT need to get there priorities in order before they make someone take down a cowboy an cross, because the high grass keep people from seeing the deers before they jump out an cause an accident an plus they need to start fixing there flood problm so it wont cause an accident.

Posted by: Krystal Baldwin Location: Madisonville,Texas on Apr 28, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Why is it such a problem to have it there? TxDOT should be more concerned with other things. As for bolted mailboxes not going through windsheilds, that is not true. We just hit a bolted down mailbox last week and it DID GO THROUGH OUR WINSHIELD! Maybe they should focus on the roads. That is where the real problem is. TxDOT needs to focus on their priorities and stop trying to create problems. As for threatening to give them a ticket for a part of their car being in TxDOT's right of way, that is just someone trying to abuse their power. Maybe they should get rid of the TxDOT employee and not the silhouette.

Posted by: james Location: madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 09:58 PM
The State has an obligation to the traveling public to make the highways and right of way's as safe as possible. There has to be guidelines and regulations for everything. We have a regulated speed limit. Should someone be allowed to drive as they please and put inoncent people as risk? I don"t think so. Mr. Stockman was to realize the State is only following the guidelines set out for everyone. They are not treating him any differently than and one else. If he is allowed to place objects beside the roadway then everyone else would have the right to put whatever they pleased to put on the right of way. If someone is injured or killed by objects placed on the right of way, who do you think is going to get suied? Believe me the family of injured or killed victims will come out of the woodwork. Drive Safety.

Posted by: Anonymous on Apr 28, 2008 at 09:34 PM
I'm sorry everybody should know about the State Right of Way. They can't make special rules. Many people die on the highways and families can't put up a cross in the right of way. They are no different than the Stockmans

Posted by: anywho Location: collegestation on Apr 28, 2008 at 09:33 PM
I think they should move it out of the right of way into their yard.

Posted by: Confused Christian Location: Madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 09:14 PM
Mr. Stockman....No one, including TxDot, is keeping Jesus off the highway. You were merely asked to move them off the highway right of way. It is wonderful that you feel lead to show your faith in this display. But is your behavior and attitude towards TxDOT truly reflective of a Christian attitude. I think not.

Posted by: Heather Location: College Station on Apr 28, 2008 at 09:00 PM
That is absurd!!! So if he moves it to “his yard” would it be ok or are we now being told religion cannot be visible at all? It is already out of schools and now yard art. That is ridiculous!!! People need to remember what mothers have been saying for years. . . if you don’t like it/him/her don’t look at it ~ turn the other way!

Posted by: OMG!!! Location: Out of Town on Apr 28, 2008 at 07:49 PM
Oh MY Gosh, people. He doesn't have to take it down completely, just move it back out of the right of way. It can still stay up and be very visible from a few feet back where it puts nobody in danger. Would Mr. Stockman want to be liable if someone hit it and wanted to sue?

Posted by: Law Location: Bryan on Apr 28, 2008 at 07:43 PM
The law is the law. We all must obey it...like it or not...agree with it or not.

Posted by: John on Apr 28, 2008 at 07:13 PM
Bottom line - this is the LAW. If the TXDOT employee fails to act on the violation when he or she knows the structure is in violation of the law then that employee is not doing their job. The liability for this structure lies with the state based on its location not based upon its content. Should an accident occur and it is shown in a court of law that the accident was even partially responsible for that accident it is the state who is held liable if they knew of this structure and failed to seek its removal according to what ? Yes the LAW. The other issue here is that if this symbol was one representing the religion of Islam or if this structure was one representing homosexuality then those who NOW support this structure NOT being moved would be OUTRAGED and call for its removal. I am sure they would refer to the fact it is against the law for it to be there. If you do not like the law then expend the energy to change it.

Posted by: Jeff Location: Near You on Apr 28, 2008 at 07:08 PM
The book of Isiah tells us that no weapon formed against you shall prosper. Ignore them and keep the cross up. If they keep up this nonsense they are going to have to answer to charges in a court that is much higher than even the United States Supreme Court. The honorable Jesus Christ will be the presiding judge.

Posted by: J Location: Madison County on Apr 28, 2008 at 06:36 PM
I think he shold be able to keep the cowboy kneeling in his yard to show what jesus did for you to forgive you fore your sins so no I do not like the idea that people are forcing him to move the decorations.

Posted by: Mj. L Location: brenham on Apr 28, 2008 at 06:28 PM
How sad that a judge doesn't want to follow TXDOT safety guidlines that are there for ALL of us to follow.

Posted by: Concerned citizen Location: Madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 06:27 PM
I think the KBTX speakout poll should be rephrased because apparently the Stockman's are not being forced to remove their lawn decorations, they are being aked to move them to another location (off the state right of way). The question is very misleading and the harsh tone does cause the uninformed readers to vote NO!

Posted by: Misty Location: College Station on Apr 28, 2008 at 06:18 PM
The reason TXDOT has asked the Stockman's to remove the yard art has nothing to do with it's subject matter. It has to do with safety. If a car veers off the road and hits the cross or kneeling cowboy, it's driver could be seriously injured or killed. Freedom of speech needs to be exercised with wisdom and concern for the welfare of others, not just a desire to get a message across regardless of how important the message it is. Jesus is well able to speak to passers by without risking their safety or defying the law to do so. As He said "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." I'm sure Mr. Stockman would not want to have a piece of yard art fly through his windshield or that of his loved ones and cause harm if they veered off the road onto the state-owned right of way.

Posted by: Tim Location: Iola, TX on Apr 28, 2008 at 06:12 PM
Maybe TXDOT should worry about the deaths on FM244 instead of such a trivial issue. If the State wants the right of way, how about the State mowing their rights of way. Most of the accidents including fatalities on FM 244 were due to poor visibility from lack of mowing and excessive posted speed limit of 65mph without a shoulder. I think the Stockman's should send Gov. Perry a bill for highway beautification. I remember last year heavy equipment parked in the right of way on FM 244 and it took several phone calls to move them. They were definitely a safety hazard. I know for a fact subcontractors are fined daily for abandoning equipment in this manner. Fix the roads (not just patching holes) and hire subcontractors, sell the State equipment, TXDOT is incapable of fixing anything the first time! Subcontractors are a better use of my tax dolalrs.

Posted by: Citizen of M'ville on Apr 28, 2008 at 06:10 PM
I like the comment from Christain woman. I,too, was wondering if the word remove or move was used. Move them back and we can still enjoy them. No one said that the symbols had to be removed. I am glad that Mr. Stockman is going to pray for the people that removed Jesus from the highway because he will be praying for himself. He is the one that chose to remove the cross and the cowboy instead of move them. It is amazing how two letters can change the whole meaning of something.

Posted by: Outcast Location: Iola on Apr 28, 2008 at 06:04 PM
It is not a TXDOT vs. Religion issue. The same thing happened in Iola and alot of people including churches had to move things back in their yards. Two of our churches had to move their main signs. It is not that big of a deal. I hope the Stockmans will just move their Cross closer to their house and continue being happy as before. As Christians sometimes we pick the wrong battles to fight instead of what really matters. We should really focus on the homeless, hungry, helpless, and the lost. Situations like this, although sometimes are unifying (if this is a word), rarely promote spreading the Gospel. Good luck to the Stockmans.

Posted by: Joe Location: madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 05:48 PM
It is obvious that this guy working for the state is a "convenient" Christian, when it improves his position with the state, he is a Christian, when when he is out exercising his iota of "power" vested in him by the state, he is a card carrying Atheist! This guy is a sorry excuse for a real Texan. Is this the guy I spent 20 years in the military protecting? If so, I am ashamed!

Posted by: Pat Location: Madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 05:11 PM
What about all the real junk that clutters along the state roads..don't hear anything about that. We here in Madisonville have enjoyed these decorations for a long time. Find something real to do with your time TXDOT.

Posted by: Mi Mi Location: Madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 05:04 PM
The man from TxDot is doing his job and I think that one should not shoot the messenger. If Mr. Stockman is such a law abiding citizen , then just move the scenery back out of the right of way and everyone can still enjoy it and no one will be braking the law.

Posted by: MMM Location: CS on Apr 28, 2008 at 04:41 PM
Leave the Cross and toss this TXDOT Mgr. who is trying to flex his muscles..Sounds like a great idea to me =)

Posted by: jessie Location: brayn on Apr 28, 2008 at 04:38 PM
I would tell TXDOt to mow my yard and pay my taxs then. should Txdot be fixing to the road and not worry about someone yard art!

Posted by: Citizen of Madisonville Location: Madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 04:11 PM
It is precisely for this kind of needless controversy and creating havoc that Mr. Stockman is not our County Judge. Lucky us.

Posted by: Tim Location: BCS on Apr 28, 2008 at 04:09 PM
If the decorations at issue are indeed on TxDOT property, why doesn't Mr. Stockman just move them back onto his own private property?

Posted by: Christian woman Location: Madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 04:07 PM
The problem I see here is two hard heads met and can't agree on a middle. Did TXDOT tell Mr. Stockman to move the cross or remove the cross? I go by there everyday and would venture to say Mr. Stockman has plenty of space to relocate the yard art and in one place could be seen both from Hwy. 21 and Collard Street.

Posted by: TXDOT fan Location: Huntsville on Apr 28, 2008 at 04:07 PM
My fiancee works for TXDOT in a neighboring county and I know firsthand what these employees go through on a daily basis. Such as cars zooming by when they are working on the roads that you complain about being fixed. Having a gun poked in their faces because they are trimming trees on the right of way that the landowner does not want trimmed. These are probably the same limbs that you complain about. What about getting knocked off the road by an 18 wheeler while sanding the highway during an ice storm or working non stop during the hurricane evacuation to make sure that the roads are as safe as possible. It is sad that when they try to do something as simple as moving some objects for the safety of the public they are judged and get called names. Shame on you Madison county for letting this erupt into such a major ordeal. Just think, if it was a Bud Light sign or a sign promoting liquor would there still be a controversy? Probably not, but the sign would still have to be moved

Posted by: Lana Location: Madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 03:52 PM
I have a good friend that works for TXDOT and from what I understand the issue is not the cross in a religous since or the fact that the obstacles are in the way of a driver's view of the roadway. The issue the fact that the cross is on state property. No TXDOT does not maintain the area by mowing a person's yard but I am sure that they would if that is what you would like. People are judging the middleman that was sent to do his job. Apparently Mr. Stockman has already been in trouble once because he had cars from his carlot parked on the right of way. What would happen if a car lost control and hit the car? Another lawsuit in the making. Mr. Stockman did you realize that you could be sued if someone hit the cross. TXDOT is trying to protect you along with itself. To those of you that continue to bash the Mr. Highway Man, there are 2 sides to every story. How can you sit back and judge a person for doing their job. Those of you without fault go ahead and cast the first stone

Posted by: Mike Stockman Location: Madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 03:28 PM
I would like to answer to the commenters that say I think I"m above the Law. I do not think I"m above the Law, If you would look, before YOU Judge, you would see that I removed The Cross and cowboy when I received the Highway Department notice. I will attempt to get permission to put them back as soon as possible.If I do not get permission , I will pray for everyone who kept Jesus off of our Highway. Thank you. Mike Stockman

Posted by: Glenda Location: Madisonville,Tx. on Apr 28, 2008 at 03:14 PM
I don't really know why the TXDOT actually cares .If this land is in a circle drive. Seems like he has a problem against Jesus.What I have to ask him is Why don't you confront Jesus first instead of the Stockmans?

Posted by: L Location: College Station on Apr 28, 2008 at 03:13 PM
Can't the decoration just be moved back from the road instead of taken down completely? If I was the homeowner, I would find another way to legally keep the decoration in the yard. The silhouette is a good reminder to us all.

Posted by: BILL Location: HWY 21 on Apr 28, 2008 at 02:56 PM
WHAT WOULD OUR FOREFATHERS HAD DONE IN THIS SITUATION???????

Posted by: A. Location: Bedias on Apr 28, 2008 at 02:46 PM
The comment from the employee of TXDOT shows once again that there are two sides to every story. Perhaps the employee that has tried to enforce the rules must do so or loose his job. I personally would love to see the cross remain, but as another writer commented, obedience to the law of the land, no matter how frivolous, is what a citizen is called upon to do.

Posted by: Shana Location: Bryan on Apr 28, 2008 at 02:39 PM
Sorry, I forgot what else I was going to say. What we should do is just let the grass grow where the state "supposedly" owns. I think it would be neat to see what they think of that!

Posted by: Shana Location: Bryan on Apr 28, 2008 at 02:35 PM
I think they should be able to keep whatever they want on their lawn. If this is "supposedly" the states property, why don't they come mow what they own! But no, citizens like us have to mow their property!!!

Posted by: Guy Location: Flynn on Apr 28, 2008 at 02:12 PM
Hey; Mr. Big Highway Man, Your real big and yeah you have a little power. Quess what son, Your not as big as JC and God and you sure dont have the power they have. Maybe you should give that a little thought on your judgment day...

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 02:09 PM
I believe that there is no harm at all in the decorations that Mr Stockman has in his yard. In fact, I smile on a daily basis because of the things I see in his yard. I actually drive by his house intentionally on holidays just to see what his newest decoration is. This just sounds like someone from the city or county having nothing better to do than harrass someone they don't particularly care for! If more people had Jesus in their yards and in their hearts alot of the mess in this world would not be happening!! The mailbox is closer to the road than the cross, people all over town have things in their yard that could be hit by motorists! If someone were hit that cross where it sits they would have to be quite a distance off of the road in the first place.

Posted by: Renee Location: Bryan on Apr 28, 2008 at 02:07 PM
It sounds like to me that "someone" wants to PUSH their authority. Plain and simple! What is the world coming to? If we continue to be pushed, it will only get worse!

Posted by: Nancy Location: madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 01:01 PM
This is to Cindy from Bryan--It is people like you that have caused TXDOT to enfocrce the safety rules of the highway. Let's sue. Give me a break. The reason TXDOT is asking the that the structures be removed is so that they will not be sued. Case in point. You are Darned if you do and darned if you don't. You can't win with narrowed minded people like you. The problem is not religion, the problem is the saftey of tax paying individuals just like yourself. If any other type of structure was asked to be removed other that a cross, this would not have made the news and upset the community. I truly find comfort in the cross but it sickens me when people use the cross to glorify themselves instead of the real reason behind the story of the cross. God forgive us.

Posted by: bryan Location: cs on Apr 28, 2008 at 12:44 PM
In college Sta. you have to mow and maintain state rite away or the city will mow it and add it to your bill. this is fair?

Posted by: Brenda Location: Madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 12:44 PM
The Stockmans yard is a joy to look at when you come into Madisonville. They decorate for nearly every month of the year and is done very tasteful.

Posted by: TXDOT fan Location: madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Some of the comments have been that the state needs to stay out of it. Okay, then they need to stay out of sanding the roads during ice storms, working after hours when a storm blow through, putting up baracades during high water, supervising traffic etc when the hurricane evacuees swarm our town. TXDOT is not trying to take joy out of the community nor are they trying to take away a person's right to express their values, TXDOT is just following the laws that our superiors have enforced. Don't attack the middle man. Look to the real source of the problem. The people that are making the employees and supervisors do the dirty work. Oh, by the way, Mr. Stockman, Prayer has not been taken out of the schools (per your comment on the TV.) As long as there are tests in school. Prayer will always be present.

Posted by: law abiding citizen and a christain too on Apr 28, 2008 at 12:11 PM
What are we teaching our children here? Stand up for what you believe in even if it is against the law. Laws are made to be followed just like we as Christians should follow the Ten Commandments. I like seeing the decorations in front of Mr. Stockman's house. I WAS proud that he displayed what this world is lacking-faith in Jesus. But now look at all of the turmoil this situation has caused. I teach my children daily that you are to respect authority and rules that are made for your safety. I also teach them that God is supreme and we should honor Him at all times. This whole ordeal is being blown out of proportion and Christians will take the hit, not for standing up for what they believe in but for believing they are above the law.

Posted by: Tony Location: Bryan on Apr 28, 2008 at 12:02 PM
How tolerant must Christians be to those who are less tolerant of us? I would guess that some people find some comfort when they see that cowboy kneeling at the Cross. TxDot has a lot more to be concerned about than what is happening at the Stockmans.

Posted by: Jeanette Location: Huntsville on Apr 28, 2008 at 12:01 PM
Suggestion: Call Mr. Wood's office and leave him a message telling him how you feel: Welcome to TxDOT's Bryan District District Engineer: Bryan Alan Wood, P.E. Mailing Address: 1300 North Texas Avenue Bryan, Texas 77803 Phone Number: (979) 778-9600

Posted by: Jeanette Location: Huntsville on Apr 28, 2008 at 11:55 AM
I could be wrong here, but I thought that a person could display/erupt anything within an "easement/right-of-way" as long as it was not permanent??? Question: Who pays taxes on this "right-of-way"? Keep the Cross on Hwy. 21!!! \0/

Posted by: nancy Location: madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 11:44 AM
I agree with Richard, let's leave Jesus on Highway 21, but in a spot where there will not be any controversy. And to Just Me in Leaon, you break my heart. How can you judge Mr. Highway Man??? Have you looked in the mirror lately? State employees do what they are told to do by the people above them. You do your job or you lose it. Just look at the TXDOT employee post. I sure God is sad that His name is being drug into such an unfortnate situation. All Mr. Stockman had to do was move the cross back a few feet. Now he has stirred up the whole community over something that no one has control ove r except the state.

Posted by: Mark Location: Madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 11:21 AM
You people are not seeing the issue here!!!! It is the treat of a lawsuit when someone hits the cross. Apparently you have never been involved in a case like this before. It has nothing to do with the cross and Jesus but everything to do with the law!!! No wonder Christians get a bad wrap. Listen to what your are saying. Go ahead Stockmans break the law, boy I'm sure Jesus is proud of that one. Apparently the TXDOT rule is being enforced by people out the the Bryan District. I think it is sad because a group of workers are doing their jobs that they are receiving such a bad wrap. I'm sure it doesn't really matter to TXDOT whether the cross stays or goes. it is a matter of safety. I wouldn;t complain until you have walked a day in their shoes. Let's just put the cross in the middle of 21. Jesus owned that to before the state did.

Posted by: Cindy Location: College Station on Apr 28, 2008 at 11:14 AM
The Stockmann's "yard" appears very well maintained and attractive--what about all the other land along Hwy 21 that grows unsightly due to owner neglect?? I'm sure if TXDot is going to make note of the Stockmann's yard, they then are willing to maintain not only this "TXDot property" but all the other "TXDot property" along other roadways????? I would welcome a neighbor like the Stockmann's to live next door to me!

Posted by: freethinker Location: steethollow on Apr 28, 2008 at 11:09 AM
would he approve if I lived next door and put out a Bud light poster on my right of way

Posted by: Nicole Location: Madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 11:02 AM
I have never had a problem at this intersection. EVER!!! If I (a shorter individual) who drives a car doesn't have a problem, then I have a hard time believing that someone can't see because of the decorations. I enjoy seeing yards around town decorated when I drive by. I wish TxDot would worry about fixing the sorry roads in the town and the cars that are constantly parked where you can't get see them around corners instead of trying to make a religious statement. If you don't believe in God or worship him that is fine by me, just turn the other cheek an ignore it. There are many things in the world that I don't agree with or support but I have learned to put on my big girl britches and get over it.

Posted by: Lena Lou Landry Location: Madisonville, Texas on Apr 28, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Maybe Bill O'Reilly should hear about this!

Posted by: Cindy Location: Bryan on Apr 28, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Leave the Cross-up. I think the Stockman's need to get a Law, and Sue TX DOT. Anytime you are paying property taxes, you are obligated to do whatever with your land.

Posted by: CS Location: College Station on Apr 28, 2008 at 10:50 AM
what happened to our freedom as Americans?

Posted by: SN Location: College Station on Apr 28, 2008 at 10:48 AM
If the cross is in the RoW it should come down. If these folks want it in their yard just move it back until it is no longer an issue. Jesus owned the land first? Give me a break. That is the most ridiculous statement I've heard in a while. I think I'll put a pentagram in MY yard, just for grins.

Posted by: Kimberly Location: Brenham, Tx on Apr 28, 2008 at 10:43 AM
This sounds to me like someone that has an issue with what the cross symbolizes and it has nothing whatsoever to do with the so called state property. They need to focus on the real problems that need to be addressed on Hwy 21 and quit harrassing someone that is bold enough to proclaim Jesus on HIS property! This is ridiculous that this country founded on God is taking God out of the picture and then they sit back and wonder why there are all the problems in this great country. I applaud those who stand up in the face of the enemy and proclaim God's word. Keep Jesus standing strong on Hwy. 21

Posted by: Lenora Location: Bryan tx on Apr 28, 2008 at 10:42 AM
the txdot man seems to have a vendita against this family. and needs to mind his own business. This cowboy cross is NOT blocking views for traffic at any stop signs or red lights. And I don't hear of this txdot man paying the bills for this family. so he needs to do his real job and that is working on the roads and fix what needs to be fixed on the roads.

Posted by: Margie Location: Franklin on Apr 28, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Tx. Dot Employee seems to be throwing a little weight around. Who maintains the spot? Does TxDot? Is it in the Hwy? What is the harm?

Posted by: TxDot employee Location: Iola on Apr 28, 2008 at 10:06 AM
This is not new policy for TxDot. However, it is new enforcement by the District Engineer, Bryan Wood. Mr. Wood seems to be a by-the-book type of guy. But he actually does what he wants and is bringing the moral of all Bryan District employees down as he does it. I am one of his employees, I should know. This sort of thing, and many others, is happening all over the Bryan District. Mr. Bryan Woods' most notable, and over used phrases is, "disiplinary action will be taken" and another favorite is "unacceptable". The employee turnover rate for District 17, the Bryan District, is greatly increasing due to Mr. Woods actions. I suppose he is trying to impress the newly installed engineer-director, Amadeo Saenz. I think Mr. Bryan Woods actions should be investigated. TxDot has gotten a very bad reputation lately due to bad decisions, mis-stated operating fund reporting, toll roads, and now, Bryan Wood. I have been an employee for 15 years and have never seen such low moral.

Posted by: David Location: College Station on Apr 28, 2008 at 09:55 AM
This is no different than if you did not like someone's landscaping...just don't look at since you can't make them change it. This is just a txdot employee flexing his muscles because he doesn't like something...and he has no real authority between 8 & 5 so let's pick on someone we can beat. How many other requests have been made to remove the cowboy?

Posted by: Richard Gilbreath Location: Madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 09:30 AM
Keep Jesus on Highway 21

Posted by: Citizen Location: Madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 09:20 AM
You've got to be kidding that TXDOT is more concerned about something as petty as a persons yard ornaments when there are real problems and concerns that should be taken care of. Drive down Hwy 21 and see how the state property needs to be mowed and the trees need trimmed to help prevent power outages when we have high winds, storms, etc. There are several places that need to be focused on to keep motorists safe when pulling out on Hwy 21 and other Hwys. It would be nice if we were all super human and had xray vision to see through the trees and such but unfortunately we don't. This citizen has always kept his yard nice and it's nice to drive by and see his displays for each occasion. I'm sure he decorates for others enjoyment not just he own and not to offend anyone either. So TXDOT please focus on the real problems.

Posted by: darlene Location: madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 09:18 AM
This is wrong what there making mr. and mrs. stockman do. the state needs to stay out of it. i love seeing the cross there everymorning i go by. i guess whoever asked them to take it down is not a christian.

Posted by: Anonymous on Apr 28, 2008 at 09:12 AM
Does KBTX have a picture of the cross blocking the right of way so we can see for ourselves what TXDOT is complaining about?

Posted by: Jessica Location: Bryan on Apr 28, 2008 at 09:07 AM
I think that as long as the Stockman's are paying for that land they should be able to put whatever they want up. we need more people in America to not be ashamed to put Jesus in their front yard! Our country was founded on the gospel of Christ and we are so far from that today, it is disappointing.

Posted by: Rebecca Location: Madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 09:07 AM
Tx Dot needs to leave these people alone. What they are putting out will not hurt anyone any worse than a tree on the side of the road. Tx.Dot is just wanting to be a bully. Is it because it is religios. If I were the Stockmans I would move the decorations back and keep them up just to irritate the Tx.Dot.

Posted by: Just Me Location: Leon County on Apr 28, 2008 at 09:06 AM
That stinks. Does the state come in and mow their "right of way"? How often is this piecs of grass used by the highway department? The mailbox is closer to the highway than the yard decor, oh but I guess that is alright because that is federal property. What does it hurt to let these folks keep their stuff up in their yard and if the highway department needs to use this area for anything, they can move it then? Some people have such ugly hearts. Mr. Highway man must not have much of a say-so at home.

Posted by: Barney Location: Bryan on Apr 28, 2008 at 09:04 AM
You've got to nip it in the bud!

Posted by: Kat Location: Iola, Texas on Apr 28, 2008 at 08:57 AM
I have seen the cross out in the yard! I think it is great! I do not feel they should have to take it down. It is a reminder of what God did for us! "For God so loved the world he gave his only begotten son". I think TxDot should be worrying about other things than a statue in a yard!

Posted by: yukimi Location: college station on Apr 28, 2008 at 08:56 AM
keep it up do not take it down if that is all that county man has to do is bitch about stuff like that what a waste of the tax payers money county boy get off your butt and do some real work for the county i am using my husbands emale to send this to you

Posted by: lifetime resident of meadison county Location: madison county on Apr 28, 2008 at 08:50 AM
I enjoy seeing each new seasons decorations. I think the Tx-Dot employee should leave them alone.

Posted by: katie on Apr 28, 2008 at 08:42 AM
thats the most stupidest thing ive ever heard of!

Posted by: Joel Location: College Station on Apr 28, 2008 at 08:33 AM
Sounds like a bunch of scaredy cats work at texdot. If it is part of the family's drive, and not blocking the view along the road, I see no harm. I know that it is the so called "separation of church and state" that the brave Texans are afraid of. The Constitution states that "congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of a religion". It does not prohibit the free exercise of a person's belief. Just another example of the erosion of the inaleinable rights of the people. The State of Texas has enough to worry about, including their "Waco style" action against the women and children of the Fundamental Mormon sect. Guilty without a trial. I am ashamed of the actions of Texas, and the lack of correct action by fellow Aggie and Governor Perry

Posted by: Tonya Location: iola, TX on Apr 28, 2008 at 08:25 AM
I love what you said Mike..."that piece of property belonged to Jesus longer than you've had it." Wonderful!

Posted by: Anonymous on Apr 28, 2008 at 08:24 AM
LEAVE THE CROSS!

Posted by: sandy Location: midway on Apr 28, 2008 at 08:24 AM
I don't think that taking Jesus out of the yard is the isue. I think it is the fact that the symbol is on the state right of way. Move the cowboy and the cross back a few feet. People will still be able to enjoy the sight. The problem the state faces is the lawsuit that will be filed if someone has a wreck and hits the symbol or the cars parked on the right of way. Laws are made to be followed not broken. I would think that a judge would understand that.

Posted by: Greg Location: Madisonville on Apr 28, 2008 at 08:22 AM
The town should get together and take up a collection to pay the $500 dollar fine however many times they decide to charge them for this. Do we not have more important things to deal with????? We have principals assaulting students at Leon and Bryan students assaulting everybody, drug dealers everywhere, but we are going to charge a family for trying to bring joy to the community by decorating for every season. Get a life people.

Posted by: Tonya Location: iola, TX on Apr 28, 2008 at 08:19 AM
DO NOT remove the cross! I'm so glad someone has the guts to display such a beautiful and uplifting reminder of our Lord Jesus! I will soon have one of the very same displays in my yard i'm proud to say! They should NOT be made to remove this! Let all us Christians stand together for this family and our Lord! The Word says "If you are ashamed of me, I will be ashamed of you". Let us all pray for the people wanting it torn down, they obviously need it.

Posted by: Gary Location: Hwy 6 S. Collage Station on Apr 28, 2008 at 08:13 AM
TXDOT has more power than should be allowed. It has allways been accepted that as long as it was not a permanent structure, it is acceptable. If we do not stand up to this kind of power play we will continue to lose more of our rights. The Stockmans are paying taxes on property they payed for.

Posted by: C Location: Bryan on Apr 28, 2008 at 08:07 AM
If the law prevents signs to be put in the state's right-of-way ~ that means everyone. You cannot discriminate. I remember a while back that Bossier Dodge had to take down their sale signs that they had in the right-of-way.

Posted by: sue Location: Bryan on Apr 28, 2008 at 08:03 AM
If the decorations are on the right-of-way ..yes, they should take it off...putting the decorations on their own property should not be a crime....

Posted by: Carolyn Location: Bryan on Apr 28, 2008 at 08:00 AM
They may as well demand we all not decorate our lawns; we all connect to lanes, street, roads, boulevards, highways.....all decorations?

Posted by: john Location: College Station on Apr 28, 2008 at 07:56 AM
When will KBTX reporters learn to include the CRITICAL information in their articles; the obvious reason that I can see that TxDoT would object to EVERYTHING (not just the cross, at least you included that in the text, if not the headline) would be obstruction of vision or ability to maintain (ie mow or grade) the RoW. Is this a possible issue?

Posted by: Anonymous on Apr 28, 2008 at 07:52 AM
man, i would find out where the right of way ends and put up the decorations AT that line and a 'private property' sign with it

Posted by: Dennis Location: Somerville on Apr 28, 2008 at 07:31 AM
You can tell the display's not a traffic hazard. It is also clear that the Stockmans are taking spectacular care of the right-of-way and not the highway department. This is selective enforcement by a state employee.

Posted by: D.S. Location: Bryan on Apr 28, 2008 at 07:23 AM
You know it's pretty sad for our so called Great Friendly State when you have to take down Very Pretty yard decorations. You go through Any other towns,, (Example: On the way to TEMPLE or WACO) SMALLER than Madisonville and People have JUNK and I mean JUNK stitting right near the State Highways and I know for a fact it's in the right of way and I DON'T see the State doing anything about that Junk.. I think that this Judge could fight this and win.. the state don't know everything and dosen't see everything.. Hey Great State of Texas,,,, Go and pick on somebody almost your own Size and leave the Good People that keep their lawn fit and trim and are ALONE!!!!!!!!! You aught to be ashamed of yourself,,, it's apity just how low the state will go to disrupt one's lively hood....

Posted by: Anonymous Location: College Station on Apr 28, 2008 at 07:19 AM
Better check the validity of the TXDOT employee! Strange that you've been decorating for 5 years, and now all of a sudden you can't?? Stand your ground! We've got to start standing for what we believe!

Posted by: Grannie Location: Brenham on Apr 28, 2008 at 06:52 AM
Are there not more important issues for TXDOT employees to worry about?

Posted by: Joanne on Apr 28, 2008 at 06:49 AM
I don't think they should have to take the decorations down if they are not bothering anyone. They haven't seem to bother anyone for the last five years until now. I think its just silly.

Posted by: Take it down on Apr 28, 2008 at 06:46 AM
The decorations are not on your property! Feel free to decorate your own property how you wish, but you don't have any right to use someone elses property. You should know that, especially since you're a judge!

Posted by: Diane Location: Caldwell on Apr 28, 2008 at 06:45 AM
Mr. Stockman is expected to care for this property, not TXDOT. He has to mow it, water it if dry, keep it neat and clean. If he is to care for it, why not decorate it? When TXDOT cares for all right-of-way property, then they can dictate what is put on it. Plus, this sounds more like a religious war, by just one person. I'll bet this TXDOT person didn't care about non-religious decorations!

Posted by: PT on Apr 28, 2008 at 06:44 AM
Do you think TxDot is going to keep "their" property manacured? We all know they are not. Does this mean they have the right to drive across this curb & gutter R.O.W. - sure they do but look what it would do to this nice yard. TxDOT is unreasonable & the worse form of government.

Posted by: Paul Location: Texas A&M on Apr 28, 2008 at 06:37 AM
This is both a misleading article and argument. There is no reason for this situation to be a "controversy". It seems like The Stockton's and this particular TXDOT employee have a personal problem that they need to deal with. That's unfortunate, but I feel no sympathy for the couple, when they pull "the religion card". This is not a matter of religion or freedom of expression! This is a matter of private and state-owned property! Yes Mike, that property may have belonged to Jesus before TXDOT, but if it is their property now, they DO have the right to decide what they want there, and what they don't. I'm pretty sure that TXDOT has nothing against Jesus, or the freedom of religion. This dispute has to do with unauthorized (and possibly distracting) decorations on public property. This "controversy" is a perfect example of Red Herring. I for one, will not be fooled into thinking that it is anything more than a matter of public property and safety.

Posted by: slick heasley Location: college station on Apr 28, 2008 at 06:31 AM
keep them up don'ttake them down if they make you take them down then bryan college station should not be able to fly aii those a&m flags on game days

Posted by: Teresa Location: Bryan on Apr 28, 2008 at 06:21 AM
Can you not put the yard decorations closer to the house which would not be on the right of way?

Posted by: tj Location: caldwell on Apr 28, 2008 at 06:05 AM
this is extremly ridiculus! It goes to show just how some people can be.

Posted by: CAROLYN Location: BEDIAS on Apr 28, 2008 at 05:48 AM
WHAT COMMUNIST STATE DID THAT TXDOT COME FROM. WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OUR FREEDOM IN THIS STATE . THEY WANT TO TAKE OUR LAND AND MAKE A SUPER HIGHWAY WE DON'T WANT AND NOW WE CAN'T EVEN EXPRESS OUR FREEDOM OF EXPRESSING OUR RELIGON. WHERE WILL IT STOP?

Posted by: subsea Location: offshore on Apr 28, 2008 at 03:58 AM
The lord will take care of him.

Posted by: Libby on Apr 28, 2008 at 01:51 AM
Will they now tell me I cant have a bumper sticker supporting christianity? Then they must remove there Darwin, Anarchist, Satanistic, Anti-Gun, Anti-war and anti-peace stickers from there vehicles, backpacks and bodie tattos!

Posted by: J. Location: CS on Apr 28, 2008 at 01:07 AM
Um, the property off of Hwy 21 in Madisonville "belonged to Jesus?" Interesting.

Posted by: Momto2 Location: cs on Apr 27, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Do TXDOT employees not have better things to do? As is forcing the TTC weren't enough? Now they harass citizens over yard decorations and parking in their driveway. This employee should be fired for wasting time and tax dollars. We are not a police state....yet.

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